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Post by btb on Apr 19, 2024 17:13:53 GMT
Not in favour of any kind of boycott myself, surely the first sign of teams not entering gives the big clubs the ammunition to not bother themselves and kill off the competition entirely, never mind just replays. So your plan is?
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Post by Emperor Delbert Gradius on Apr 19, 2024 17:23:58 GMT
Not in favour of any kind of boycott myself, surely the first sign of teams not entering gives the big clubs the ammunition to not bother themselves and kill off the competition entirely, never mind just replays. I would prefer its demise with the remnants of dignity intact, rather than allowing it to deteriorate further into chaos.
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Post by cufctheparrot on Apr 19, 2024 17:44:10 GMT
Just out of interest how many on here attended any early round replays that we’ve recently had? The clubs very often end up losing money on it. I’m not for one minute condoning this, it’s a disgrace, especially the way it’s been handled and sneakily pushed through. This has been coming for years though, warning signs have all been there, first step was moving a round to midweek. EFL clubs have also been guilty of fielding weakened teams in it, gates have been ridiculously low, look at our trip to Blackburn this year. It’s lost its magic, that’s not all down to the big clubs, it’s partly down to smaller clubs taking the p out of the competition, once you start doing that it’s bound to come back and bite you on the bum at some point. Only now are clubs realising just how special the FA CUP is.. it’s a pity it’s taken something like this for people to wake up. Isn't that due to the competition having been devalued, from the top down, for decades? That probably is true but if you join in the devaluation of the cup by fielding weakened teams, which also results in smaller crowds, then you also have to take part of the responsibility for the consequences.
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Post by lionel on Apr 20, 2024 7:16:13 GMT
The point of the FA cup is the randomness and it's a home or away test. If you don't want a replay then you need to get the job done in the first 90 mins.
I would go EFL boycott of the cup from EFL teams.
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Post by btb on Apr 20, 2024 8:09:07 GMT
Congratulations to everyone who attends the EFL trophy games and gave the green light for the Premier League to come back for more, you must be very proud.
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Post by fblock on Apr 20, 2024 8:28:51 GMT
Oxford fans did a quite loud “stand up for the FA Cup” chant at their match last night.
Be good if we could do something like that today
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Post by fblock on Apr 20, 2024 8:29:16 GMT
Congratulations to everyone who attends the EFL trophy games and gave the green light for the Premier League to come back for more, you must be very proud. You seriously think that’s made any difference at all?
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Post by Andrewlang on Apr 20, 2024 8:36:12 GMT
I think it's possible, yes. When you allow the integrity of your competitions to be taken advantage of once it makes sense that would lead to attempting the same in other competitions.
Hopefully we all push back this time because I don't really think there's another line in the sand we can draw and expect to be taken seriously.
Andrew
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Apr 20, 2024 8:45:44 GMT
Congratulations to everyone who attends the EFL trophy games and gave the green light for the Premier League to come back for more, you must be very proud. The integrity of the FA Cup was being undermined decades before the very idea of the EFL trophy was even considered.
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Post by Andrewlang on Apr 20, 2024 8:52:21 GMT
It was, but U23 teams in the EFL cup does appear to have been a catalyst of sorts. There are many things that have led us down this path though for sure.
I blame Klopp and Guardiala almost entirely. His comment was essentially 'yes it's hard on the lower league teams but it's better for us...so tough sh*t'
Andrew
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Post by themightycambridge on Apr 20, 2024 9:03:21 GMT
Congratulations to everyone who attends the EFL trophy games and gave the green light for the Premier League to come back for more, you must be very proud. You seriously think that’s made any difference at all? Yes. You are daft if you don’t think that it’s set a precedent that virtually anything in football is up for sale as long as you cry arse enough and chuck enough money at something.
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Post by btb on Apr 20, 2024 9:05:07 GMT
Congratulations to everyone who attends the EFL trophy games and gave the green light for the Premier League to come back for more, you must be very proud. You seriously think that’s made any difference at all? Of course it made a difference, so no doubt you attended and are now feeling a little guilty.
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Post by danboyb on Apr 20, 2024 9:11:29 GMT
You seriously think that’s made any difference at all? Of course it made a difference, so no doubt you attended and are now feeling a little guilty. I find posts like this pathetic tbh. If you really believe that then fine, good for you, but childish insults thrown at people who may have attended is sad and says more about you than the person you’re spouting nonsense at. Is many people to blame for this, a fan who attended an EFL trophy game is not one of them. (No I have never attended an EFL Trophy game in my life, mainly cos it doesn’t interest me enough to go, whether B teams are involved or not)
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Post by champair79 on Apr 20, 2024 9:24:16 GMT
I don’t believe the EFL Trophy stuff has had much impact. Basically whoever has signed off the revamped Champions League and general European competition expansion has a lot to answer for. The domestic calendar has been squeezed for the top clubs.
I wouldn’t scrap replays as it’s linked to the history of the competition and it’s an important revenue stream for non-PL clubs. I would revamp the league cup though. That would potentially free up some matchdays for the bigger clubs if they were excluded for example. I’m not sure what it does to country coefficients and the like though. I’d actually scrap the EFL trophy and just make the league cup an EFL-only competition.
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Post by peu04e on Apr 20, 2024 9:30:10 GMT
Yes, I really can't imagine that the Premier League Clubs spent a lot of time checking what the attendances have been like for EFL trophy games before coming to this decision about the FA Cup.
To suggest that a Cambridge United fan's attendance at an EFL trophy game on a random Tuesday night had any baring on the decision around the FA Cup is a bit nuts.
Very simply, the FA Cup is not as lucrative as the Premier League or European football so it has been progressively sacrificed. Like taking a product which isn't selling off the shelf to find room to fit another product. It is entirely down to money. They will only ever look at their own finances, not opinions or boycotts. They don't lose out in the slightest if noone attends EFL trophy games. Or FA Cup games really. Only the EFL clubs do.
The only answer is an effective regulator, but for the FA Cup, I fear it is too late.
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