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Post by lionel on Jan 14, 2023 0:51:37 GMT
Gutted. Was so up for the match.
I'm sure the boys were wanting to get the w so we can move on from last week.
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Post by relay22 on Jan 14, 2023 11:26:05 GMT
It's true to say we could have got *someone* in sooner than we have, but not necessarily of the required standard. And once you've made that move, you might be denying yourself the opportunity to go and get the right one if they become an option later in the window. It's not as simple as identifying the areas you need to strengthen and then getting someone in within a few days of the window opening - that's rarely how it works out. The success of this window should be judged on how our squad looks on February 1, not January 13. Great Call that Russ and very true ! Yep this postponement buys us some valuable time and when we come to play them (possibly in March looking at the current fixtures and Easter being in April !) hopefully we`ll be on a much better points total and an injury free squad (except for poor Adam May of course !). Been a funny week though as had felt like a Wembley Play Off Final in an odd sort of way ! I couldn`t wait for the day of the game but had a Fear Factor at the back of my mind too.......then again I could be a Scunthorpe fan and just look at their troubles !
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Post by hersey on Jan 14, 2023 12:08:19 GMT
I had a dream about tomorrow's game last night. There were two concerning aspects: i) We went 0-1 down ii) I was playing The last time I played for United in a dream - it's happened several times - I forgot to put any clothes on. Fortunately I was hung like John Vaughan. At lest in the dream. Sadly the highlight of my football career remains being an injured unused sub for Stortford reserves. Though I did have kit on that day
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Post by imp566 on Jan 14, 2023 15:42:45 GMT
It's true to say we could have got *someone* in sooner than we have, but not necessarily of the required standard. And once you've made that move, you might be denying yourself the opportunity to go and get the right one if they become an option later in the window. It's not as simple as identifying the areas you need to strengthen and then getting someone in within a few days of the window opening - that's rarely how it works out. The success of this window should be judged on how our squad looks on February 1, not January 13. You are right and I am not sure expectations of some are in accord with realism for us as a club. January is a notoriously difficult to bring in players and you could say we have pulled off something of a coup already to have secured Rennet for the remainder of the season. We are shopping at Aldi compared to others looking at Waitrose, the money we can offer is very different to the 'bigger' clubs, which will affect who we might be able to attract Your point though about judging the strength of the squad on 1st Feb is a little dangerous - if we can't bring in our chosen targets, (not many clubs get all of their targets), we could end up with a panic signing like we did with Lorent Tolaj last season. That move certainly didn't show a great use of the loan system or indeed a successful end to a quite mediocre window. It smells of desperation signing, last on the list of 'possibles' and the only option we had left. I do hope we are not facing a similar scenario this January.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jan 14, 2023 16:01:06 GMT
I think I'd hope that we went into the last Stranguary transfer window with different requirements to this year which probably results in a different outcome.
For example, apart from bringing in Sherring to replace Masterson I don't *think* we really had any firm plans to do any other Stranguary business until IronJoe picked up an injury against Doncaster on the 18th Jan which leaves us a little short on time and a lack of preparation that might account for a 'panic' signing
This year we have solid plans to add "in every position" which should mean having key targets identified well in advance and should mean we sign the quality we need.
No hiding places if we don't. The board are backing new signings, there is a requirement for them, and there has been plenty of time to plan - I can wait for the right signing but there are absolutely no excuses for making a panic 'first loan' or inexperienced type signing this year, and indeed it's a market Bonner has said we're not really looking at.
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Post by imp566 on Jan 14, 2023 16:26:31 GMT
I think I'd hope that we went into the last Stranguary transfer window with different requirements to this year which probably results in a different outcome. For example, apart from bringing in Sherring to replace Masterson I don't *think* we really had any firm plans to do any other Stranguary business until IronJoe picked up an injury against Doncaster on the 18th Jan which leaves us a little short on time and a lack of preparation that might account for a 'panic' signing This year we have solid plans to add "in every position" which should mean having key targets identified well in advance and should mean we sign the quality we need.No hiding places if we don't. The board are backing new signings, there is a requirement for them, and there has been plenty of time to plan - I can wait for the right signing but there are absolutely no excuses for making a panic 'first loan' or inexperienced type signing this year, and indeed it's a market Bonner has said we're not really looking at. Andrew Again, I agree with you, but the highlighted paragraph may be the barrier. I am sure we have a list of players we would like to bring in, probably 2 or 3 players for each position, but the question remains whether we have the resources available to match other offers and convince them to join us, which isn't easy, especially if you are struggling at the wrong end of the league table.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jan 14, 2023 16:44:58 GMT
Yeah, admittedly the word 'should' is doing a lot of work here(!)
It won't be easy, hence the wait, but I'm not accepting any excuses. So far we've done well and set the standard and I expect that to continue.
Andrew
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Post by The Abbey Stalker on Jan 14, 2023 18:17:55 GMT
Rennett was available prior to the window opening. There are plenty of players who had the potential to improve our squad who have gone elsewhere. Could be we are not competitive, could be we are not in the right location, could be the strategy is wrong. The Seddon situation is unfortunate but that aside, there seems little sense of urgency. We need signings this week. Bonner and Strang have had time to put the necessary in place and if they can’t then others should be given the chance to do so before the window closes.
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Post by Brophypants on Jan 14, 2023 18:28:29 GMT
Rennett was available prior to the window opening. There are plenty of players who had the potential to improve our squad who have gone elsewhere. Could be we are not competitive, could be we are not in the right location, could be the strategy is wrong. The Seddon situation is unfortunate but that aside, there seems little sense of urgency. We need signings this week. Bonner and Strang have had time to put the necessary in place and if they can’t then others should be given the chance to do so before the window closes. I don't know how you can determine a sense of urgency from the outside. Wait, saw your username. As you were.
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Post by The Abbey Stalker on Jan 14, 2023 18:56:55 GMT
Rennett was available prior to the window opening. There are plenty of players who had the potential to improve our squad who have gone elsewhere. Could be we are not competitive, could be we are not in the right location, could be the strategy is wrong. The Seddon situation is unfortunate but that aside, there seems little sense of urgency. We need signings this week. Bonner and Strang have had time to put the necessary in place and if they can’t then others should be given the chance to do so before the window closes. I don't know how you can determine a sense of urgency from the outside. Wait, saw your username. As you were. Not sure what my user name has to do with it? I said there seems to be a lack of urgency on the basis that the major issues have been apparent for some considerable time and we are almost halfway through the window with little to show for it. The Seddon situation is admittedly unfortunate but even so. I honestly just don’t see the results situation changing without significant changes. We are who we are and if we end up back in League 2 then so be it. I’d just like us to do whatever is viable, practical and possible to stay up.
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Post by imp566 on Jan 14, 2023 19:02:47 GMT
I don't know how you can determine a sense of urgency from the outside. Wait, saw your username. As you were. Not sure what my user name has to do with it? I said there seems to be a lack of urgency on the basis that the major issues have been apparent for some considerable time and we are almost halfway through the window with little to show for it. The Seddon situation is admittedly unfortunate but even so. I honestly just don’t see the results situation changing without significant changes. We are who we are and if we end up back in League 2 then so be it. I’d just like us to do whatever is viable, practical and possible to stay up. I think the point is, no one outside of the negotiations knows how hard the club are working, how urgent the talks are. Unless you have been a fly on the wall when the conversations have been happening, you have no idea. In an ideal world, I am sure the club would already have the players in that they are hunting for, but as Bonner explained in his interview, sometimes its a waiting game, like buying a house. One move is very dependent on others going ahead first, we are in a chain, waiting for others to move first.
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Post by groundsman on Jan 14, 2023 19:09:15 GMT
According to Oxford forum Seddon wasn’t exactly a great signing for starters ,we’re running out of games if if we’re going to sign anyone to make any difference get on with it
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Post by Andrewlang on Jan 14, 2023 19:24:49 GMT
I've stopped caring what fans think of players. Most of the promotion squad came with criticisms, for example. Most of the comments about Morro from Portsmouth fans is that they'd piggy back him here but he's got nothing but love everywhere else.
That said, it was somewhat of a chaotic debut, yeah.
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Post by tojo on Jan 14, 2023 19:51:01 GMT
He was really poor, no doubt about that.
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Post by Russ Greaves on Jan 14, 2023 20:14:52 GMT
Rennett was available prior to the window opening. There are plenty of players who had the potential to improve our squad who have gone elsewhere. Could be we are not competitive, could be we are not in the right location, could be the strategy is wrong. The Seddon situation is unfortunate but that aside, there seems little sense of urgency. We need signings this week. Bonner and Strang have had time to put the necessary in place and if they can’t then others should be given the chance to do so before the window closes. We don’t know that he was available to us at that time, do we? He may have been assessing options and did not consider us to be one of them. We’ve made two signings, we will make more, but there are so many variables at play that very few signings are formalities - especially not when you’re a small fish in a big pond. We’re targeting League One-standard players and we’ve got one of the smallest budgets at this level. We have to be shrewd and weigh up risks. We’ll make signings, but not according to arbitrary deadlines set by people on message boards who have no insight into how the process works.
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