joe77
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Post by joe77 on Jun 26, 2024 14:14:16 GMT
In 121 appearances between them last year Kachunga, Kai Kai & Brophy offered 8 goals and 7 assists If we like having them around because they are nice guys and good in the dressing room then offer them jobs as kitmen instead. I hope they ram these words down my throat and Monk gets more out of them but I just do not understand it at this point. We have been in League One for three seasons. The league is getting stronger. Good vibes will not keep us safe or push us on. Completely agree.
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danboyb
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Post by danboyb on Jun 26, 2024 14:29:18 GMT
Retaining players is a lot easier and cheaper than going out and trying to attract 3 new ones. They all offer a little bit more than just “being nice” too.
Monk came in very late and was just starting to form relationships with the players and vice versa. He’s obviously decided he’d rather continue that than have to start all over again with about 12-14 new players.
I’ll wait and see who else we actually bring in before ridiculing those who have re signed and worrying about our league 1 status. With better players around them the likes of Brophy, KaiKai and Kachunga could all turn out better than new signings. It’ll be a long season if we’re worrying about relegation in June.
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Post by westchestertonbear on Jun 26, 2024 14:33:00 GMT
We need a central midfielder regardless of what happens with Cousins (and May, Simper & Lankester). Cousins staying.
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Post by zx10racer22 on Jun 26, 2024 14:40:17 GMT
I think keeping your best players from the previous year, then brining in top quality recruits to replace your fringe lads from last season, is a good way to evolve. It keeps a sold foundation in case a new recruit doesn't work out. But also allows you to grow.
Of our first team regulars from last season, Watts has replaced Rennett (and Jobe has come through). The only other big departure away from our front line was Mannion. So we need a GK (but I still think Stevens has a lot to offer), a few striking options and then hopefully a talented AM (to replace Lankester / May, if they go as planned).
The Gassan shaped hole up top is the biggest concern, but it's only 26th June.
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danielcufc
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Post by danielcufc on Jun 26, 2024 14:41:59 GMT
Retaining players is a lot easier and cheaper than going out and trying to attract 3 new ones. They all offer a little bit more than just “being nice” too. Monk came in very late and was just starting to form relationships with the players and vice versa. He’s obviously decided he’d rather continue that than have to start all over again with about 12-14 new players. I’ll wait and see who else we actually bring in before ridiculing those who have re signed and worrying about our league 1 status. With better players around them the likes of Brophy, KaiKai and Kachunga could all turn out better than new signings. It’ll be a long season if we’re worrying about relegation in June. Yeah let’s see who we bring in before the kick off and before the window shuts in September. No news yet of any of the transfer listed players going either. Got to be some forwards coming in which are always the most sought after.
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squeeze.
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Post by squeeze. on Jun 26, 2024 14:48:09 GMT
Retaining players is a lot easier and cheaper than going out and trying to attract 3 new ones. They all offer a little bit more than just “being nice” too. Monk came in very late and was just starting to form relationships with the players and vice versa. He’s obviously decided he’d rather continue that than have to start all over again with about 12-14 new players. I’ll wait and see who else we actually bring in before ridiculing those who have re signed and worrying about our league 1 status. With better players around them the likes of Brophy, KaiKai and Kachunga could all turn out better than new signings. It’ll be a long season if we’re worrying about relegation in June. What do they offer?
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Post by huddsmoose on Jun 26, 2024 15:03:39 GMT
It felt like this summer was the chance for a proper reset but we risk having the same squad as last year at this rate - puts a lot of pressure on us to replace Gassan with someone at least as good too.
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Jun 26, 2024 15:08:53 GMT
I don't think we should lose sight of the fact that the biggest reset we'll be having will be the Head Coach. Monk came in last season at a time when it was all about fire-fighting. We saw his ability to influence the group come through after the international break, and whilst we didn't set the world on fire, we were a lot better than we'd been before that point.
As for these players re-signing, I'm not too concerned (yet). Let's use the analogy of England currently. Good players can look average to mediocre with the wrong training/tactics, in the same way poor players can out perform that as a group with the right coaching (the international equivalent being Austria at the current euros).
They've got plenty to prove though.
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imp566
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Post by imp566 on Jun 26, 2024 15:34:47 GMT
There's an old saying 'Better the Devil you know'; if Monk thinks he can get more out of those we have retained/extended, and supplement them with 3 or 4 reinforcements, then I trust him to do that.
Lyle Taylor (and to a lesser degree Macauley Bonne) are probably a good example of the 'Devil we didn't know'; on reflection, bringing both in didn't really do us too many favours and probably ate up a considerable portion of the budget. Thanks Mr Harris!
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danboyb
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Post by danboyb on Jun 26, 2024 15:36:35 GMT
Retaining players is a lot easier and cheaper than going out and trying to attract 3 new ones. They all offer a little bit more than just “being nice” too. Monk came in very late and was just starting to form relationships with the players and vice versa. He’s obviously decided he’d rather continue that than have to start all over again with about 12-14 new players. I’ll wait and see who else we actually bring in before ridiculing those who have re signed and worrying about our league 1 status. With better players around them the likes of Brophy, KaiKai and Kachunga could all turn out better than new signings. It’ll be a long season if we’re worrying about relegation in June. What do they offer? Kachunga made a habit of being in the right place at the right time in a few games last season. He also played one or two different roles under Monk, who knows him and trusts him. I want to see more from him, he drifted out of games far too often for my liking, but i can see him flourishing if we can find that creative CM we desperately need. Brophy has been done to death. He can’t score, but he can get us up the pitch better than anyone, he can also track back and stop the opposition creating/scoring, he can cover a number of positions and does it well. He’s a proper team player and knows the club inside out. KaiKai stats speak for themselves, we’d be doing well to sign someone who comes with those stats in a struggling team. At his best he’s unplayable, that best was not seen often enough but with a creative CM and a couple of decent strikers then you’d hope KaiKai would match or even better his efforts from last season. If he bombs out it’s a 1 year deal so no big issue. (Cousins wasn’t mentioned which is good cos I can’t defend re signing him. That’s the area we desperately need new blood in and hopefully it’ll be someone the 3 mentioned can work around)
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squeeze.
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Post by squeeze. on Jun 26, 2024 15:51:48 GMT
Kachunga made a habit of being in the right place at the right time in a few games last season. He also played one or two different roles under Monk, who knows him and trusts him. I want to see more from him, he drifted out of games far too often for my liking, but i can see him flourishing if we can find that creative CM we desperately need. Brophy has been done to death. He can’t score, but he can get us up the pitch better than anyone, he can also track back and stop the opposition creating/scoring, he can cover a number of positions and does it well. He’s a proper team player and knows the club inside out. KaiKai stats speak for themselves, we’d be doing well to sign someone who comes with those stats in a struggling team. At his best he’s unplayable, that best was not seen often enough but with a creative CM and a couple of decent strikers then you’d hope KaiKai would match or even better his efforts from last season. If he bombs out it’s a 1 year deal so no big issue. (Cousins wasn’t mentioned which is good cos I can’t defend re signing him. That’s the area we desperately need new blood in and hopefully it’ll be someone the 3 mentioned can work around) Sorry mate you are talking guff. We have won 25 times in 92 matches in the last two seasons. We have survived on the last day both times. Nobody, absolutely nobody, was “unplayable” at any point last season. You would hope an attacking midfielder would match or better 3 goals and 4 assists in 39 games. If you are claiming somebody stops the opposition creating and scoring well they clearly didn’t do it very much did they? Ian Darler knows the club inside and out shall we register him? Right place at the right time? 5 goals in 36 appearances…1 every 7 appearances…so for each of the other 6 he would have been…not in the right place? Honestly. I don’t get it. Lovely guys. Clearly talented guys. They just did the square root of nothing for us and should have been thanked and moved on. Good vibes and nice training jackets though, hey.
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Post by btb on Jun 26, 2024 15:56:02 GMT
Kachunga made a habit of being in the right place at the right time in a few games last season. He also played one or two different roles under Monk, who knows him and trusts him. I want to see more from him, he drifted out of games far too often for my liking, but i can see him flourishing if we can find that creative CM we desperately need. Brophy has been done to death. He can’t score, but he can get us up the pitch better than anyone, he can also track back and stop the opposition creating/scoring, he can cover a number of positions and does it well. He’s a proper team player and knows the club inside out. KaiKai stats speak for themselves, we’d be doing well to sign someone who comes with those stats in a struggling team. At his best he’s unplayable, that best was not seen often enough but with a creative CM and a couple of decent strikers then you’d hope KaiKai would match or even better his efforts from last season. If he bombs out it’s a 1 year deal so no big issue. (Cousins wasn’t mentioned which is good cos I can’t defend re signing him. That’s the area we desperately need new blood in and hopefully it’ll be someone the 3 mentioned can work around) Sorry mate you are talking guff. We have won 25 times in 92 matches in the last two seasons. We have survived on the last day both times. Nobody, absolutely nobody, was “unplayable” at any point last season. You would hope an attacking midfielder would match or better 3 goals and 4 assists in 39 games. If you are claiming somebody stops the opposition creating and scoring well they clearly didn’t do it very much did they? Ian Darler knows the club inside and out shall we register him? Right place at the right time? 5 goals in 36 appearances…1 every 7 appearances…so for each of the other 6 he would have been…not in the right place? Honestly. I don’t get it. Lovely guys. Clearly talented guys. They just did the square root of nothing for us and should have been thanked and moved on. Good vibes and nice training jackets though, hey. Why have you stopped using your ugirl alias?
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Post by sam28 on Jun 26, 2024 16:00:00 GMT
With all players offered contracts now with their futures decided, regardless of what I'd want us to do, I can only see us bringing in 5 new players. GK, CM, 2 out and out strikers and another who can play across the front 3.
Even then that might depend on the 4 listed players. Hopeful Monk will get a better tune out of Kaikai and Kachunga especially, however.
Maybe 6 actually if Lankester definitely departs, I think we could still do with one more across the front 3 and hopefully the club see's that too!
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danboyb
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Post by danboyb on Jun 26, 2024 16:05:15 GMT
Kachunga made a habit of being in the right place at the right time in a few games last season. He also played one or two different roles under Monk, who knows him and trusts him. I want to see more from him, he drifted out of games far too often for my liking, but i can see him flourishing if we can find that creative CM we desperately need. Brophy has been done to death. He can’t score, but he can get us up the pitch better than anyone, he can also track back and stop the opposition creating/scoring, he can cover a number of positions and does it well. He’s a proper team player and knows the club inside out. KaiKai stats speak for themselves, we’d be doing well to sign someone who comes with those stats in a struggling team. At his best he’s unplayable, that best was not seen often enough but with a creative CM and a couple of decent strikers then you’d hope KaiKai would match or even better his efforts from last season. If he bombs out it’s a 1 year deal so no big issue. (Cousins wasn’t mentioned which is good cos I can’t defend re signing him. That’s the area we desperately need new blood in and hopefully it’ll be someone the 3 mentioned can work around) Sorry mate you are talking guff. We have won 25 times in 92 matches in the last two seasons. We have survived on the last day both times. Nobody, absolutely nobody, was “unplayable” at any point last season. You would hope an attacking midfielder would match or better 3 goals and 4 assists in 39 games. If you are claiming somebody stops the opposition creating and scoring well they clearly didn’t do it very much did they? Ian Darler knows the club inside and out shall we register him? Right place at the right time? 5 goals in 36 appearances…1 every 7 appearances…so for each of the other 6 he would have been…not in the right place? Honestly. I don’t get it. Lovely guys. Clearly talented guys. They just did the square root of nothing for us and should have been thanked and moved on. Good vibes and nice training jackets though, hey. No need to apologise, your opinion and if you go through a season watching stats rather then actually being at matches yourself then it’s the sort of opinion you’ll form. I’ve no idea if Kachunga or KaiKai are nice blokes, not had the pleasure, but saying we kept Brophy just cos he’s a “nice bloke” is quite honestly pathetic and totally disrespectful.
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Jun 26, 2024 16:07:42 GMT
Presumably not a line manager of any sort wherever he/she works. Someone not performing as you'd like? No point giving them training, just bomb them out....
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