markt
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Post by markt on Jul 30, 2024 11:20:56 GMT
"It’s been good to see that a few of the young lads have been involved and in some cases made a good impression, but i don’t expect any of them (bar Hoddle, McConnell) to feature in the first team plans so makes sense to let them leave on loan now and we start bedding down formation/partnerships etc" Yeah, i's been good to see. I'm not sure what I expect to happen with Hoddle, I'd tend to lean towards the path that gives him the most minutes so typically that would be the Bennett-route and a six month loan, but if Monk is true to his promise of giving young players a chance then I'd expect him to stay and play. I guess Barton and Njoku are the two youngsters who have an opportunity to impress during pre-season but I think I expect them to be loaned out. The rest like Ebanks-blake, Ewans-Findlay, Bulakio, Holmes and Munday I'd anticipate all getting loans at various stages of the season. Although they're all under 18's still so maybe the new pathways manager has a different plan for them and thinks they'll be better suited training with the first team or something 🤷🏻♂️ Andrew I don't think GM would be phased in having a bench full of young lads if he thinks they are good enough to impact a game with a short cameo appearence.
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Post by imp566 on Jul 30, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
"It’s been good to see that a few of the young lads have been involved and in some cases made a good impression, but i don’t expect any of them (bar Hoddle, McConnell) to feature in the first team plans so makes sense to let them leave on loan now and we start bedding down formation/partnerships etc" Yeah, i's been good to see. I'm not sure what I expect to happen with Hoddle, I'd tend to lean towards the path that gives him the most minutes so typically that would be the Bennett-route and a six month loan, but if Monk is true to his promise of giving young players a chance then I'd expect him to stay and play.I guess Barton and Njoku are the two youngsters who have an opportunity to impress during pre-season but I think I expect them to be loaned out. The rest like Ebanks-blake, Ewans-Findlay, Bulakio, Holmes and Munday I'd anticipate all getting loans at various stages of the season. Although they're all under 18's still so maybe the new pathways manager has a different plan for them and thinks they'll be better suited training with the first team or something 🤷🏻♂️ Andrew I'm not sure that Hoddle gets into the team, apart from the meaningless games, ahead of our midfield. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't see it at his stage of development. McConnell may get more minutes from the bench, but again, unless we have injuries, can't see him displacing the established and incoming midfielders. 'Giving young players a chance' doesn't mean throwing them into the first team necessarily, it also includes giving them a loan at the optimum level for their development, so that when the time is right, they are ready. Lennet is a great example of this.
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danboyb
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Post by danboyb on Jul 30, 2024 11:37:07 GMT
I think a lot will depend how much the injury McConnell had has delayed his development. Hoddle also appears to be picking up a few injuries here and there, I don’t think he played in either game last weekend. (Happy to be corrected on that, I’m going on memory)
Neither will be starters, but as things stand I would expect both to be in and around the squad, fitness permitting. I would keep them around for the early season games and then see where we are come the end of the month.
I have them both a little ahead of Njoku, Barton, Kaunda etc and would hope if they’re sent out on loan then it’s no lower than a top half NL side. Ideally League 2 in McConnell’s case. Time will tell though.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 30, 2024 11:39:14 GMT
"Giving young players a chance' doesn't mean throwing them into the first team necessarily, it also includes giving them a loan at the optimum level for their development, so that when the time is right, they are ready. Lennet is a great example of this"
I take from the context of what Monk says that 'giving young players a chance' means introducing them to the first team at United but I agree generally. That pathway is going to look different depending on the individual and the opportunities presented at the parent club. With Lennett I have no doubts it was the right decision but midfield is a slightly more rotated position within games than right back is so it's possible Hoddle might get a fair number of minutes if he stays. We'll see I guess.
Andrew
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malotru
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Post by malotru on Jul 31, 2024 12:43:28 GMT
442 magazine has us to go down in 22nd along with Crawley, Shrewsbury and Northampton.
Pretty sure they’ve had us relegated every season since promotion.
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Post by funkymonk on Jul 31, 2024 13:16:15 GMT
Probably and I don't think that's a surprise really.
The fact they put that piece together before anyone had signed doesn't help.
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Post by joe77 on Jul 31, 2024 13:22:51 GMT
442 magazine has us to go down in 22nd along with Crawley, Shrewsbury and Northampton. Pretty sure they’ve had us relegated every season since promotion. Then hopefully the relegation predictions will act as motivation. Can totally see why we're being predicted to struggle, tbh. We have a very solid looking experienced centre midfield unit, but apart from that we are undercooked, understrength and only an injury or two away from the absolute bare bones in most positions. We're light up top and people are, understandably, making cases for another option on the left and another creative option. I would argue with Jobe's absence, we're also one quality player short at centre back. It's clearly a challenge to complete this summer's recruitment, whether that's a budgetary issue or availability of the right quality of player or a combination of both. We've gone into the last couple of seasons short on depth of quality and once injuries have kicked in, we've really paid for that lack of depth scraping to stay up by the skin of our teeth. Difficult truth perhaps but based on the above, I'm not at all surprised at the external predictions for how our season might shape up. Hopefully, they'll all be wrong again. But how we finish our summer recruitment is absolutely crucial to our chances of kicking on this season.
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lesj
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Post by lesj on Jul 31, 2024 13:25:56 GMT
Are we not due for another signing ?
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Post by hookycrooky on Jul 31, 2024 13:36:18 GMT
I think it would be a loan deal
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lesj
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Post by lesj on Jul 31, 2024 13:42:14 GMT
With a loan deal, would the player be up to full fitness with the parent club?
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joe77
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Post by joe77 on Jul 31, 2024 13:47:10 GMT
With a loan deal, would the player be up to full fitness with the parent club? Likely to be less of a question mark over the fitness of a loan player signing than that of a free agent at this stage. The loan player will have been having a pre-season with their parent club.
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lesj
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Post by lesj on Jul 31, 2024 13:54:25 GMT
That was what I was thinking.
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danielcufc
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Post by danielcufc on Jul 31, 2024 14:22:35 GMT
Club are teasing that its been media day at the Abbey and a video out later so maybe not a new signing but who knows?
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 31, 2024 14:33:32 GMT
"Likely to be less of a question mark over the fitness of a loan player signing than that of a free agent at this stage. The loan player will have been having a pre-season with their parent club"
Yeah, I agree, they'd be fit. If we were to loan out, say, a Hoddle or an Okedina then they'd be fit as they've been training with us all summer so I'd expect any incomings to be the same.
Never quite sure about free agents but take Worman for example. When he didn't get fixed up with a club immediately we had him back for training so I'd imagine that sort of thing happens more often than we realise.
Andrew
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malotru
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Post by malotru on Jul 31, 2024 15:17:02 GMT
I believe we’ve still got 1 first teamer signing to make which I think should be a striker. That player most likely won’t have a particularly good goal scoring record but will have potential.
Due to Jobe out and injury records of Morrossi we need CB reinforcements but probably more of a squad player who could make 25 appearances. A youngster on loan from a higher league would be ideal.
At least 3 more players needed, probably some will arrive at the back end of August.
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