MartinL
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Post by MartinL on Jul 4, 2024 22:26:07 GMT
Welcome to unfettered access to the Uk for immigrants and acceptance of applications for all those already being detained here. What a country. Single market or customs union with the EU next, with freedom of movement included? You are Nigel and I claim my £5 |
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Post by MartinL on Jul 4, 2024 22:27:18 GMT
So looks like Starmer has managed to get a lower vote share than Corbyn did in 2017. Against a pathetically weak and corrupt government that almost everyone detests. Not much of a victory really, is it? Kentish That was quick. Must be the fastest count in history. |
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Post by andycufc on Jul 4, 2024 22:31:19 GMT
Welcome to unfettered access to the Uk for immigrants and acceptance of applications for all those already being detained here. What a country. Single market or customs union with the EU next, with freedom of movement included? Obsessed with immigrants. Not so bothered about the 3 million people relying on food banks, the shortening life expectancy, the children living in poverty? |
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Post by MartinL on Jul 4, 2024 22:48:34 GMT
Welcome to unfettered access to the Uk for immigrants and acceptance of applications for all those already being detained here. What a country. Single market or customs union with the EU next, with freedom of movement included? Obsessed with immigrants. Not so bothered about the 3 million people relying on food banks, the shortening life expectancy, the children living in poverty? Also fails to realise that immigration has gone up since his beloved Brexit of which the vast majority is legal immigration. Asylum seekers are a tiny minority of the immigration figures but their tiny bigoted brains can only focus on one thing at a time. Only a matter of time before he mentions woke.. |
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Post by Funky Monk on Jul 4, 2024 23:16:39 GMT
It hasn't been thrown around? Have you not seen any protests, twitter or even this thread? It is pointless, because it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater and reduces the impact of the horrors of this conflict. The word has a meaning, and misusing it is harmful. Hopefully this conflict doesn't go on too much longer. How is it being misused? Calling it out is absolutely vital. Because it isn't genocide! There are two options: 1) It isn't genocide. 2) It's genocide but they're doing an absolutely awful, completely hopeless effort at it. If you've got all the military might you could ask for, and 2 million people living in an area the size of my arse, but have 'only' killed 30,000 people then you're doing a shockingly bad job of it. Not to mention the vast amount of Palestinians who aren't in Gaza and so on. Hence the point, misusing the term only detracts from it's power and makes it a baby out with bathwater scenario, as there are no shortage of horrors occuring in this conflict that require the attention. Anyway, don't wish to derail this thread too much from the pumping the Tories are getting, or the bizzaroworld racist statements in this thread getting dismantled by less swiveleyed folk. |
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Post by kentishu on Jul 5, 2024 5:11:04 GMT
So looks like Starmer has managed to get a lower vote share than Corbyn did in 2017. Against a pathetically weak and corrupt government that almost everyone detests. Not much of a victory really, is it? Kentish That was quick. Must be the fastest count in history. You never heard of the exit poll Martin? And I thought you knew everything. Anyway Curtice is now suggesting that the Labour vote share in England is roughly unchanged from 2019, which IIRC the media stated was Labour's worst ever GE result. And hilariously, if you add Reform's 13% gain to the Tories 24% vote share, the Tories could have had 37% against Labour's 35% - so fair to say that Nigel and crew have gifted this election to Labour, which is nice of them isn't it? Hardly a resounding endorsement of Starmer and his Tory-lite party but they won so that's all that matters right? Kentish |
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Post by MartinL on Jul 5, 2024 6:07:41 GMT
That was quick. Must be the fastest count in history. You never heard of the exit poll Martin? And I thought you knew everything. Anyway Curtice is now suggesting that the Labour vote share in England is roughly unchanged from 2019, which IIRC the media stated was Labour's worst ever GE result. And hilariously, if you add Reform's 13% gain to the Tories 24% vote share, the Tories could have had 37% against Labour's 35% - so fair to say that Nigel and crew have gifted this election to Labour, which is nice of them isn't it? Hardly a resounding endorsement of Starmer and his Tory-lite party but they won so that's all that matters right? Kentish Just wasn’t getting ahead of myself- not going to apologise for being a raging pessimist! |
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Post by abbeycambridge on Jul 5, 2024 7:01:37 GMT
Fvck the Tories
Labour can’t be any worse, can they ?
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Post by imp566 on Jul 5, 2024 7:40:23 GMT
That was quick. Must be the fastest count in history. And I thought you knew everything. Anyway Curtice is now suggesting that the Labour vote share in England is roughly unchanged from 2019, which IIRC the media stated was Labour's worst ever GE result. And hilariously, if you add Reform's 13% gain to the Tories 24% vote share, the Tories could have had 37% against Labour's 35% - so fair to say that Nigel and crew have gifted this election to Labour, which is nice of them isn't it? Hardly a resounding endorsement of Starmer and his Tory-lite party but they won so that's all that matters right? Kentish I can't believe how accurate that Exit Poll was - forecast exactly the right amount of seats for Labour and not far off the share of the others. In another country that would be classed as vote rigging!  |
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Post by artvandelay on Jul 5, 2024 7:44:10 GMT
That was quick. Must be the fastest count in history. You never heard of the exit poll Martin? And I thought you knew everything. Anyway Curtice is now suggesting that the Labour vote share in England is roughly unchanged from 2019, which IIRC the media stated was Labour's worst ever GE result. And hilariously, if you add Reform's 13% gain to the Tories 24% vote share, the Tories could have had 37% against Labour's 35% - so fair to say that Nigel and crew have gifted this election to Labour, which is nice of them isn't it? Hardly a resounding endorsement of Starmer and his Tory-lite party but they won so that's all that matters right? Kentish I don't think there's anything 'lite' about Starmer and his hatred of the working-class, immigrants and progressive politics! He makes Tony Blair look like Che Guevara. |
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Post by foolhandy on Jul 5, 2024 8:05:26 GMT
4 Green MPs and 4 Reform MPs - looking forward to the Greens getting equal airtime!
(And yes, Reform got a higher % of the vote but a) That's not how FPTP works and b) Greens got a higher % in the locals and still all the focus was on Reform...)
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Post by texaspete on Jul 5, 2024 8:28:17 GMT
Welcome to unfettered access to the Uk for immigrants and acceptance of applications for all those already being detained here. What a country. Single market or customs union with the EU next, with freedom of movement included? Behave. Immigration will decrease substantially over the next few years as the government tackles the issue rather than just play to the gallery. No chance of single market or customs union. Labour will govern as competent One Nation Conservatives cleaning up the mess the last government has left the country in with the aim of winning trust for a second term where they can be more radical and properly fix things. The only thing that will stop them is Trump plus World War III though that’s looking more likely than not tbh. Amusing listening to Conservatives whinging about Labour remembering how to win General Elections under First Past The Post given the Tories have pushed FPTP hard over the last few years on the basis that they can nip in through the middle of a split left-wing vote (as they did in several Mayoral & PCC elections since their reforms) One last thought: /video/1 |
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Post by imp566 on Jul 5, 2024 8:29:58 GMT
4 Green MPs and 4 Reform MPs - looking forward to the Greens getting equal airtime! (And yes, Reform got a higher % of the vote but a) That's not how FPTP works and b) Greens got a higher % in the locals and still all the focus was on Reform...) Sadly, it will be a case of 'He who shouts loudest', and we know that Farage is way out in front on that race. The man loves the sound of his own voice! |
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Post by B Block on Jul 5, 2024 8:37:18 GMT
With everything seeming broken there was always going to be a change of government.
If they can keep the loony left under control then labour might not be too bad after all
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Post by lesj on Jul 5, 2024 8:56:52 GMT
Good point, Anthony Browne the Tory MP who won South Cambs by a small majority from the LibDems in the last election fearing that he is going to lose his seat to the LibDems in this election, has now moved and become the candidate for St Neots and Mid Cambs So, Anthony Browne changes his constituency for safety & still manages to lose a 12,500 majority HA,HA,HA,HA |
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