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Post by madmarvin on Sept 17, 2024 17:46:52 GMT
Catching up then the narrative seems to be that Strang’s Judgment can’t be questioned, we don’t sigh injury prone players, we are plucky little old Cambridge and can’t compete with the big clubs like Stevenage & Shrewsbury and once it all clicks in the winter we’ll be fine. Have i missed anything 🤷♂️ I'm always sighing about our injured players...
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Post by danielcufc on Sept 17, 2024 17:51:12 GMT
Come on, Dan, you're better than that. I did post it tounge in cheek but it does appear that despite being bottom of the league, we can’t be critical about the club. Staying up on the last day of the season 2 years running and now this start does deserved to be questioned in my book. It’s not exactly been fun 2024 watching the team has it?
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Post by El Goodo on Sept 17, 2024 17:52:16 GMT
But we are all being critical. We are all questioning it.
If you can find any of our fans who isn't at all worried about our results or think the job being done on the footballing side of the club is faultless & beyond reproach I'll loan myself to Walsall.
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Post by andycufc on Sept 17, 2024 17:54:49 GMT
Come on, Dan, you're better than that. I did post it tounge in cheek but it does appear that despite being bottom of the league, we can’t be critical about the club. Staying up on the last day of the season 2 years running and now this start does deserved to be questioned in my book. It’s not exactly been fun 2024 watching the team has it? You can be critical, and you are being critical - other people are just disagreeing with you.
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Post by MrRajeshX.Classic on Sept 17, 2024 17:55:34 GMT
Club bought new Shane Lavatory with Machester United money and now he is injured. What is point?
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Sept 17, 2024 18:02:42 GMT
Come on, Dan, you're better than that. I did post it tounge in cheek but it does appear that despite being bottom of the league, we can’t be critical about the club. Staying up on the last day of the season 2 years running and now this start does deserved to be questioned in my book. It’s not exactly been fun 2024 watching the team has it? Ben Strang must have not reached your house yet. He did say he would let my wife and kids go after 5 neutral to positive posts.
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Post by pgtips (lurid) on Sept 17, 2024 21:22:47 GMT
This is a great post. It's the boring truth though that isn't as exciting as moaning about faceless suits, calling for sackings and claiming players we haven't even seen will be useless, on forums, social media and podcasts though. Again though, if the general consensus on here is that Monk's job should start to be inquestion then in turn Strang's should too. This start and the rocky form over the last two and a bit seasons implicates more than Monk. I reckon that's what most people who are questioning Strang think, and I don't believe that's unreasonable either. Nor would I deem it to be scapegoating. Having sacked Bonner to get (and not keep) another manager for the returns from injurey and better fixtures, we now propose getting rid of another skilled servant of the club in Strang. Scape goating may appease the masses, but it is ruinous for the club. This is not the way to encourage people to take on a hard job. The last year has made a mockery of our motto.
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Post by rozza1 on Sept 18, 2024 7:27:21 GMT
Again though, if the general consensus on here is that Monk's job should start to be inquestion then in turn Strang's should too. This start and the rocky form over the last two and a bit seasons implicates more than Monk. I reckon that's what most people who are questioning Strang think, and I don't believe that's unreasonable either. Nor would I deem it to be scapegoating. Having sacked Bonner to get (and not keep) another manager for the returns from injurey and better fixtures, we now propose getting rid of another skilled servant of the club in Strang. Scape goating may appease the masses, but it is ruinous for the club. This is not the way to encourage people to take on a hard job. The last year has made a mockery of our motto. Again I haven't called for him to be just sacked out right on the spot. Asking valid questions and discussing areas we are clearly lagging behind in isn't scapegoating, unfortunately for Strang his job role covers the area of the club that's been failing these last few seasons. Surely it'somewhat naive to think he's blameless and all golden because he's been here for a while. As for bringing up Bonner, it was sad to see him go but it was the right thing for both parties. I'm not sure the point of rehashing another discussion about him, us failing on the pitch now and Gillingham doing well doesn’t simply make the decision last November the wrong one.
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Post by zx10racer22 on Sept 18, 2024 11:09:00 GMT
Come on, Dan, you're better than that. I did post it tounge in cheek but it does appear that despite being bottom of the league, we can’t be critical about the club. Staying up on the last day of the season 2 years running and now this start does deserved to be questioned in my book. It’s not exactly been fun 2024 watching the team has it? Staying up on the last day of the season is success, in my eyes. We cannot compete in this league until the ground is redeveloped and we're getting 10k+ attendances. That's the financial reality. There's about 8 clubs in this league who are a similar size to us, which basically means, you're relegated if you finish mid table within that group. It's a tough, tough division for a club our size.
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Post by funkymonk on Sept 18, 2024 11:39:54 GMT
Size and budget aren't the same thing as well, sure we're a bigger club than Wycombe or Burton but guess what...
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Post by cambsno on Sept 19, 2024 8:16:49 GMT
Having sacked Bonner to get (and not keep) another manager for the returns from injurey and better fixtures, we now propose getting rid of another skilled servant of the club in Strang. Scape goating may appease the masses, but it is ruinous for the club. This is not the way to encourage people to take on a hard job. The last year has made a mockery of our motto. Again I haven't called for him to be just sacked out right on the spot. Asking valid questions and discussing areas we are clearly lagging behind in isn't scapegoating, unfortunately for Strang his job role covers the area of the club that's been failing these last few seasons. Surely it'somewhat naive to think he's blameless and all golden because he's been here for a while.
As for bringing up Bonner, it was sad to see him go but it was the right thing for both parties. I'm not sure the point of rehashing another discussion about him, us failing on the pitch now and Gillingham doing well doesn’t simply make the decision last November the wrong one. How are we failing? 4th consecutive year in L1 - Sure, it would be great to be mid table or even flirt with playoffs. But we had not been in L1 for around 20 years. 5 years ago, the thought of this would be crazy. And we don't want to become a Watford type club of sacking a manager each year - you need to give it time.
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Post by Andrewlang on Sept 19, 2024 8:42:43 GMT
Yeah, I don't think we've failed the last few seasons at all. It's a fine line perhaps but we'd look very different right now had we 'failed'.
In some ways I think the promotion and 14th place finish back in league 1 has made us a victim of our own success a little but regardless I think we've probably scraped through the bare minimum of requirements the last 2 years so although we haven't 'failed' I do think it's fair to question some aspects of the club.
I don't know enough about what Strangs job involves to be able to judge tbh. Does anyone? Beyond saying 'well I think player x is old/injured/crap/brophy' does anyone know how to measure the success or otherwise of Strangs role at the club?
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Post by cambsno on Sept 19, 2024 8:56:31 GMT
Yeah, I don't think we've failed the last few seasons at all. It's a fine line perhaps but we'd look very different right now had we 'failed'. In some ways I think the promotion and 14th place finish back in league 1 has made us a victim of our own success a little but regardless I think we've probably scraped through the bare minimum of requirements the last 2 years so although we haven't 'failed' I do think it's fair to question some aspects of the club. I don't know enough about what Strangs job involves to be able to judge tbh. Does anyone? Beyond saying 'well I think player x is old/injured/crap/brophy' does anyone know how to measure the success or otherwise of Strangs role at the club? Andrew I think, staying in L1 is success even if that is last day escape. Until we generate more money (new badge perhaps), we have to be happy with that. I think if you were to list signings he has made in last 5 or 6 years there are a lot more good ones than bad ones, a few neutrals but not many have been bad. Jokes aside (I am NOT a Brophy fan) Brophy is a good signing. I even think Fejiri was a neutral one in that it was a risk worth taking as there is a player in there. Hauntsrup yes was a bad one but not too many more. Look at the players now playing for bigger clubs than us - Mitov, Iredale, Mullin, Knibbs, Smith, Ahadme, Jones, Mannion, or the big names like Wes, RB or even those that gave solid service like Joe, O'Neil, Diggers etc... Cousins I would put as a neutral rather than bad and on paper most have looked good (sure Loft less so but give him a chance). Even O'Riordan coming upset Blackburn fans as they thought he was good. Not really sure what people expect, whatever he does is criticised. All I know is that he has been Dir of Football in our most successful spell since Beck some 30 years ago!
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Post by Andrewlang on Sept 19, 2024 11:59:24 GMT
Fair enough but I'd be of the opinion that as the line between success and failure is so fine I can't really fall definitely on one side or the other.
As I say, I think it's fair to question whether we could be doing better than we are and how we can achieve that - it doesn't have to mean throwing Strang out with the bathwater and I suspect it wouldn't, but it could involve many other things and I suspect it does...in fact, I know it does. We wouldn't have invested in the training ground if we thought last day survival was enough. We want to keep developing and the only way to progress is continually question what you can be doing better or differently.
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