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Post by imp566 on Dec 11, 2021 7:57:00 GMT
BT are doing this on the cheap, using as much of the Australian offering as they can instead of sending a team of UK commentators/broadcast crew out there. That may be because of Covid, but one thing I don't want to hear is gloating Aussie commentators if/when we are getting a pasting! Stayed up to watch what I optimistically hoped would be a sustained fight this morning, but sadly and predictably, all went to rat rubbish again after Malan gave his wicket away - not that I was able to watch much of it as I turned off and went to sleep when pictures were lost from Australia. How embarrassing for BT Sport, but reinforces the comments made on here (and by myself) about BT doing this on the cheap!
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Post by imp566 on Dec 11, 2021 7:57:34 GMT
Good to see some fight in the team; probably not going to change the ultimate outcome of the test, but will have given the Aussies something to ponder over if they thought they could roll us over cheaply twice in the match. You do sense though that we are one wicket from a collapse, especially if it is Root. Prophetic?
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Post by soulhalshall on Dec 11, 2021 9:26:04 GMT
What a meek surrender it was in the end, not surprising but disappointing not to even bat through until the new ball. Root played a lose shot. The way he and Malan got out playing at balls in a sort of attacking way you wonder what the message had been prior to play. It was alright to skip down the wicket the previous evening when they were seeing the ball well and on top but they needed to be more watchful early on.
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Post by imp566 on Dec 17, 2021 12:55:55 GMT
Rinse and repeat, so predictable!
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Post by soulhalshall on Dec 17, 2021 18:24:25 GMT
I sat through the whole of day two until finally giving up with that limp Hameed dismissal just before the end. But there were so many times I felt like chartering a plane for them all back to UK.
Robinson bowled better on day two at least. But all mostly irrelevant as we will crumble with the bat.
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Post by getoffmyland on Dec 17, 2021 20:22:54 GMT
Done many times over, but modern English players dont have the staying power to grind out innings nowadays.
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Post by imp566 on Dec 17, 2021 20:35:28 GMT
Done many times over, but modern English players dont have the staying power to grind out innings nowadays. That's because the bright lights and riches available in the short form of the game are much more enticing. Flashy shots are for that form of the game, playing them and getting out doing so in a test match is irresponsible and shows them up for a lack of technique and application.
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Post by jonmacartney on Dec 17, 2021 21:27:25 GMT
What to say. Not surprising really.
England have some good players, but have effectively sacrificed the test team for the white ball over the last few years – and successfully too.
I don’t know enough about Silverwood, but Root’s had long enough as captain now. One of the pundits in the build-up said he thought Root captained by theory, and I think that’s a good summary. He has his plan but is seemingly helpless when that doesn’t work.
Despite being a Surrey member I’ve never been convinced by Burns as a test opener. But he is a good captain.
Obviously nothing is going to happen during this series, and I doubt much afterwards really but:
I’d either completely drop Burns or make him captain, return Root to being the best batsman.
I’m not convinced by Buttler in red ball cricket either: I’d replace him with Foakes.
I think Crawley and Pope have something about them, but they need to produce. I like Hameed as well, but he’s the same.
Stokes is vital and Robinson is about the only bright note of the last year, so, reluctantly, I think it’s time to split up Broad and Anderson, and go with one of them, Robinson and then a combination of Archer, Woods, Woakes and Curran, depending on conditions.
We also need to choose and stick with a spinner. I don’t really know which one.
I think it’s time for a complete shake up: we’ve been told they’ve been planning for years – yes covid and injuries have massively affected it all – but wrong selection at the Gabba and wrong selection and poor tactics so far this test suggest the planning is somewhat wanting!
And don’t get me started on the prioritisation of the Hundred over the red ball county games……..
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Post by imp566 on Dec 17, 2021 22:09:11 GMT
What to say. Not surprising really. England have some good players, but have effectively sacrificed the test team for the white ball over the last few years – and successfully too. I don’t know enough about Silverwood, but Root’s had long enough as captain now. One of the pundits in the build-up said he thought Root captained by theory, and I think that’s a good summary. He has his plan but is seemingly helpless when that doesn’t work. Despite being a Surrey member I’ve never been convinced by Burns as a test opener. But he is a good captain. Obviously nothing is going to happen during this series, and I doubt much afterwards really but: I’d either completely drop Burns or make him captain, return Root to being the best batsman. I’m not convinced by Buttler in red ball cricket either: I’d replace him with Foakes. I think Crawley and Pope have something about them, but they need to produce. I like Hameed as well, but he’s the same. Stokes is vital and Robinson is about the only bright note of the last year, so, reluctantly, I think it’s time to split up Broad and Anderson, and go with one of them, Robinson and then a combination of Archer, Woods, Woakes and Curran, depending on conditions. We also need to choose and stick with a spinner. I don’t really know which one. I think it’s time for a complete shake up: we’ve been told they’ve been planning for years – yes covid and injuries have massively affected it all – but wrong selection at the Gabba and wrong selection and poor tactics so far this test suggest the planning is somewhat wanting! And don’t get me started on the prioritisation of the Hundred over the red ball county games…….. Great summation.
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Post by imp566 on Dec 18, 2021 8:26:44 GMT
Got up early this morning, just in time for the collapse. Brilliant!
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Post by soulhalshall on Dec 18, 2021 14:50:27 GMT
I didn't bother watching today. I wonder how we combine all formats. Test cricket is brilliant, but I can see how in 2021 it's a strain for cricketers and their families. To go away to any Test playing side for a three- to five-match series is a serious time and energy commitment. And while the pay is not bad for that when compared to most other jobs, it is not the sort of potentially life-changing sum which could be earned by a spell in a franchise league. If you are going to be away from your young children and families for six to eight weeks it would want to be for a decent reward. Or that's the view I think more might take in these more enlightened times of shared family roles. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe these aren't considerations but possibly a reason for players to prioritise their ODI game.
This team, you could almost make an argument for getting Eoin Morgan in as a specialist captain, and his batting would be no worse than the others. Won't happen of course but I'd like it to. For now, I'd drop Burns who's technique is far too suspect to face class bowlers and using current squad I'd bat Bairstow at 2. I don't love Crawley but might be worth a go in place of Pope.
A replacement captain in the side would have to be Stokes with Malan maybe the only other option, I think he should stay in the side for a bit and he captained Middlesex I think.
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Post by shaggy09 on Dec 19, 2021 4:19:35 GMT
Having seen Crawley quite a bit i think the Australian pitches may suit him, can't be worse than Burns.
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Post by imp566 on Dec 19, 2021 22:16:27 GMT
Any chance when I get up at 7 in the morning that the test is still going? I'm not expecting it to be, all over by lunch I reckon.
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Post by soulhalshall on Dec 22, 2021 6:27:48 GMT
I started following cricket in the 90s, which was a time of fairly slim pickings for England obviously. But if you look back at some of the players we had, none of whom won an Ashes series; Atherton, Hussain, Thorpe and Stewart for example - all four have Test averages better than all of our current players other than Root. Only Stokes and Root have better averages than Mark Butcher. There is a lot wrong at the moment.
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Post by imp566 on Dec 22, 2021 9:50:42 GMT
Root sounded like a beaten man in his post match interview, the closest I have seen to a skipper/manager calling out his team mates/players. Mind you, I bet he was physically hurting also after being hit twice in the nuts, that won't have improved his mindset or mood!
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