tojo
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Post by tojo on Sept 9, 2023 6:15:45 GMT
No idea how to put pictures on here but for the Habbin a tight terraced stand close to the pitch, not too deep but all the way along the pitch then the NRE something like QPRs or Brentfords with seats up top if need be Not some anonymous, identikit seated stand like Burtons or Fleetwoods. We can do better. Your going to be v disappointed, its possible the nre will be terrace, but no chance of the habbin being so. |
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Post by lionel on Sept 9, 2023 6:30:29 GMT
Show your working... The more I think about it, I genuinely don't think that the club would risk potentially alienating a chunk of supporters. We'd be alienating a huge chunk of potential support by not providing more seating (families and corporate). I'm often surprised that anyone over 40 is that attached to standing too 🤔 Seats along the side of the pitch is absolutely the norm in pro football. You need to go down to tinpot levels to regularly find standing areas length wise. The New NRE™ sounds like it will be an excellent standing area for yoof to create an atmosphere. Maybe displaced Old Habbinites will make the western corner their own? My view is that the charms of the existing Habbin must be sacrificed for the greater good. (And a new Habbin terrace just wouldn't be the same surely?) You've just plucked 40 out of the air! |
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Post by nickpom on Sept 9, 2023 6:57:27 GMT
Show your working... The more I think about it, I genuinely don't think that the club would risk potentially alienating a chunk of supporters. We'd be alienating a huge chunk of potential support by not providing more seating (families and corporate). I'm often surprised that anyone over 40 is that attached to standing too 🤔 Seats along the side of the pitch is absolutely the norm in pro football. You need to go down to tinpot levels to regularly find standing areas length wise. The New NRE™ sounds like it will be an excellent standing area for yoof to create an atmosphere. Maybe displaced Old Habbinites will make the western corner their own? My view is that the charms of the existing Habbin must be sacrificed for the greater good. (And a new Habbin terrace just wouldn't be the same surely?) Exactly this - the club has ongoing demand for seats, especially for families, while terrace space goes empty. That is not really sustainable in the long term, much though we all love the Habbin terrace. |
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Post by milesfenton on Sept 9, 2023 7:59:19 GMT
I do think something would be lost by not having at least some terracing down that side. I like that there at least 3 distinct feeling areas to watch from around the ground, each with their own atmosphere. Personally I like to watch a game standing up, but from a better side on position than the NRE.
There are some other larger grounds like Bristol Rovers that manage to have a sizeable terrace in front of seats, which seems to work well and contributes to a louder atmosphere.
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Post by Bangkok u on Sept 9, 2023 8:07:58 GMT
I'm not sure how you could fit a 3000 capacity seated stand into the land available on the Habbin side. There is virtually no space to extend backwards at the northern end of the site. So 5 or 6 rows up to half way then double decker it on the other half? But then that would leave no room at the back for access. If you can work out the access issue then 2 possible solutions could be designes similar to Bridgford stand at Nottingham Forest or the end stands at the old Dell stadium at Southampton. Can't do photos so could someone with a bit more tech please post examples. Thanks You are incorrect hhabbin.Grosvenor showed plans a few years ago with a 3,000 seat Habbin.Here is some text I copied,not sure how to show the images though…………. owners of the Abbey Stadium, Grosvenor Estate have announced ambitious plans to increase the capacity of the stadium to around 11,000. This would be achieved by building a new 3,500 capacity terrace at the Newmarket Road (South) end of the ground. This would be followed by replacing the current Habbin Terrace with a new 3,000 all seated stand complete with corporate areas. The final phase would see the current Main Stand being refurbished and extended. However the scheme is dependent on Grosvenor Estates being given permission to pursue other developments in the Cambridge area, the profits from which would be used to fund the Abbey Stadium Developments. |
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Post by hhabbin on Sept 9, 2023 8:27:16 GMT
Were there actual drawn plans with this? I'm just having a problem with how it would fit on the available space.
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Post by moose on Sept 9, 2023 8:44:58 GMT
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Post by imp566 on Sept 9, 2023 9:39:01 GMT
We'd be alienating a huge chunk of potential support by not providing more seating (families and corporate). I'm often surprised that anyone over 40 is that attached to standing too 🤔 Seats along the side of the pitch is absolutely the norm in pro football. You need to go down to tinpot levels to regularly find standing areas length wise. The New NRE™ sounds like it will be an excellent standing area for yoof to create an atmosphere. Maybe displaced Old Habbinites will make the western corner their own? My view is that the charms of the existing Habbin must be sacrificed for the greater good. (And a new Habbin terrace just wouldn't be the same surely?) You've just plucked 40 out of the air! Yes, I for one feel offended by that! |
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Post by imp566 on Sept 9, 2023 9:43:23 GMT
I do like the pitch - but think they have gone into full positive PR mode with this sentence: 'This side will have conference facilities added, facing the picturesque Barnwell Lake.' Picturesque is certainly gilding the lily! |
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Post by hhabbin on Sept 9, 2023 9:45:57 GMT
I do like the pitch - but think they have gone into full positive PR mode with this sentence: 'This side will have conference facilities added, facing the picturesque Barnwell Lake.' Picturesque is certainly gilding the lily! Interesting concept all extra facilities facing away from the pitch! |
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Post by pgtips (lurid) on Sept 9, 2023 9:48:16 GMT
I don't think I'd want a curved roof for the habbin. It's just not very Cambridge is it? Give me angles or give me death. Steady there Sandypants. I'm not wedded to any particular roof. I just think that we'll get one run at a New Habin™ and it should maximise accomplishment. Tiered is the only way we can make the most of a narrow footprint. If we can sell exec boxes for more money than the same area of seating then it makes good sense to put in loads of them. The high rollers are a natural preselect for advertising and sponsorship sales. A breeding ground for future board members. The upper tier has to be seated. Basic safety. The central area of the lower tier is prime ticket area and should be seated too. The sides/ends will be the last to sell and should be lower tier standing so that discounted tickets can help fill them. This would be the maximum capacity areas like the south South Habbin (Rainbow Stand™) that fill up last. They can be relatively empty without us looking tinpot. The importance of the standing areas is that younger standing attendees are the future of the club. Do we really want to limit that capacity to one end and choke off the future support? A curved roof would limit upper tier end seating areas. Not a high demand area, but a higher vantage point gives a better view than the stand below. Entry level seating. I refer back to maximising the accomplishment. The object of a new stand is foremost to get the largest capacity in there we can, secondly to maximise the revenue of that capacity through use of seating and boxes and thirdly to make it a reasonable asthetic for other sides of the stadium and "the people at home". |
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Post by tojo on Sept 9, 2023 9:49:35 GMT
I do like the pitch - but think they have gone into full positive PR mode with this sentence: 'This side will have conference facilities added, facing the picturesque Barnwell Lake.' Picturesque is certainly gilding the lily! Interesting concept all extra facilities facing away from the pitch! Good view of a cows arse |
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Post by Andrewlang on Sept 9, 2023 9:52:41 GMT
Should've kept Harvey Knibbs and handed him a banjo.
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Post by hhabbin on Sept 9, 2023 9:57:37 GMT
As I suspected not plans but some fantasy/ concept drawings. I know these are outdated ideas, but what's in the illustrations just could not be built and would not hold 3000 people. You can't have a uniform symmetrical stand like that on available space. Unless more land is acquired behind the Habbin.Hang on it's common land isn't it ? So I think that is not even worth thinking about. The sooner CU come up some proper plans the better. |
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Post by Andrewlang on Sept 9, 2023 10:06:27 GMT
Shame we can't shift everything towards the carpark a bit. That'd create a bit more space for a Habbin.
There's no available space to do so though really, unless we demolished the Main Stand first, built a new one behind it, moved the pitch, then built a new Habbin in the gap created.
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