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Post by hoolaohanrahanrahan on Dec 12, 2023 13:59:31 GMT
I'd listen to Alex Scott all day, Sam Matterface makes me reach for the remote.
Such is life.
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Jerry1971
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Post by Jerry1971 on Dec 12, 2023 13:59:37 GMT
Frankly, Barton is a grade A bellend and Keegan a dinosaur. A lot of women undertake voluntary roles in the mens/boys game - my wife qualified as an FA coach to assist coaching at my son's team for example and she is by no means alone. Similarly, a lot of men commentate on women's sport - McEnroe at Wimbledon, Matt Baker for Gymnastics and plenty of others too. It comes down to the simple fact that if you are good enough to hold a particular role then gender is really not relevant. Some male commentators in the mens game are truly dreadful, and some women commentators in the mens game are too, same with pundits.
I think a lot of the debate and dare I say controvery comes from the fairly consistent approach followed by the BBC where seemingly women only can present and commentate on WSL fixtures and internationals (see last week for the Lionesses v Scotland) and also that there is almost always at least one woman as a pundit on BBC live mens football. Make of that what you will.
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Post by saltyvinegar on Dec 12, 2023 14:09:22 GMT
With football commentators, in my opinion, the range of voice tone is everything. Some have it & some definitely don't in both sexes. I do feel though that some of the female commentators I've heard on mainstream Radio & TV are definitely in the "don't have it" category. No issue with female pundits though as I tend to ignore them both male & female
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Post by Sandypants on Dec 12, 2023 14:14:09 GMT
Never understood this 'female pundits' should stick to women's football. Yes some of them I do find a little boring and out of place, but then there are plenty of male pundits like that too. I don't get the hate for Alex Scott at all. The trouble is most are there because they are women. Karen Carney is very good, Scott is ok, but most of the others are not very good IMO and there because of their sex, to tick a box. Can't remember her name but one on Soccer Saturday is awful. Yes, thats just an opinion but even though I think Merson and Morrison can be awful at times they are entertaining. Not a pundit, but people like Vicky Gommersall and Bianca Westwood are very good as they seem to be passionate football fans and talk very well but that Melissa Reddy is just shocking. Until we get rid of Matterface, Savage, Owen, Crooks and co, I think we can rule out incompetence as an excuse for this misogynist nonsense.
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Post by danboyb on Dec 12, 2023 14:27:05 GMT
Surprised me just how much poor commentary ruined my enjoyment of a game actually. Matterface and Dixon are awful on England games, but unfortunately I cringe at some of the things Dion comes out with since getting the gig alongside Bower on CH4. Anyway, unless we’re looking to transfer Johnno and Doug, I’m getting a bit off track.
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Dec 12, 2023 14:30:19 GMT
As others have said most pundits are awful and are ticking a "have played the game" box. Nobody kicked up a big fuss about Chappers being on MOTD2 right?
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Post by Andrewlang on Dec 12, 2023 14:35:55 GMT
"Until we get rid of Matterface, Savage, Owen, Crooks and co, I think we can rule out incompetence as an excuse for this misogynist nonsense"
In fairness Owens apple story was gold, ain't no women brave enough to try that.
Andrew
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Post by andyrt on Dec 12, 2023 15:00:34 GMT
Is this in the wrong thread? I’m not sure what its got to do with the January transfer window.
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Post by hoolaohanrahanrahan on Dec 12, 2023 15:01:02 GMT
As others have said most pundits are awful and are ticking a "have played the game" box. Nobody kicked up a big fuss about Chappers being on MOTD2 right? Quite, even if Chappers is superb. Likewise for Maniche, if he's still knocking about somewhere.
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Post by cambsno on Dec 12, 2023 15:13:54 GMT
As others have said most pundits are awful and are ticking a "have played the game" box. Nobody kicked up a big fuss about Chappers being on MOTD2 right? Quite, even if Chappers is superb. Likewise for Maniche, if he's still knocking about somewhere. I think Chappers is superb, Crooks on the other hand, worst there is
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Post by artvandelay on Dec 12, 2023 17:13:27 GMT
I would rather watch just about anything than five minutes of the forced 'bants' that constitutes football on television these days. The 'bants' is actually better than listening to Garth Crooks or Michael Owen trying to sound intellectual when pointing out the glaringly obvious, come to think of it. How anyone can have watched televised football descend into this nonsense and think that the problem here is a couple of female voices is beyond me!
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Post by jamesm6688 on Dec 12, 2023 21:21:33 GMT
Another group please…
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Post by jamesm6688 on Dec 12, 2023 21:21:33 GMT
Another group please…
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Post by jamesm6688 on Dec 12, 2023 21:21:33 GMT
Another group please…
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Post by jamesm6688 on Dec 12, 2023 21:21:33 GMT
Another group please…
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