Sandypants
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Post by Sandypants on Feb 10, 2024 14:29:20 GMT
Presumably the issues would be around traffic and transport capacity? All of those developments could change or add to traffic density so the planners will, I guess, want to look at the combined effect... I get that nick but it shouldn't be at the detriment of United, especially as other projects have been given the go ahead. United can't be restricted or blamed for the current clusterf*ck that is Cambridge's transportation system and road network. If they (council) want us out the way, then they better be well supportive, positive and assist financially. Exactly. If the Grafton redevelopment is going to have 4000-6000 people working there full time and bus stops on east road to accommodate (as if), plus the precedent of ignoring city centre tall building policy, and the beehive is likely to go the same way, (not forgetting the development around the north station) they're adding significant burden to the area's transport infrastructure. The station and Chisholm trail will go some way to mitigating this, but an amount of people are always going to require roads. What are the odds we get the hard questions about transport capacity in the area? Ones we won't be able to dodge with a clearly fictional "actually we think this will help with the transport"?
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Post by rayhertford on Feb 10, 2024 17:22:49 GMT
The CFU lottery paid for the tents, and shipping containers. Not the club. I can’t work out where that loss is so high, assuming none of that is for the training ground, so that’s players and sticking a few tents and shipping containers in?
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Dylan
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Post by Dylan on Feb 10, 2024 19:37:25 GMT
Oh, relocation would be really saddening.
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Post by undertheabbeystand on Feb 15, 2024 18:20:16 GMT
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Lurid
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Post by Lurid on Feb 16, 2024 10:46:00 GMT
Nice tip of the hat to "Brain" (sic) Attmore, Nick Pomery and Godric Smith as fellow CFU founders. The focus on match day experience seems to be serving the supporters and club well. Strongly in favour of change to grow forward.
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Post by jaydub on Feb 16, 2024 11:39:14 GMT
Staying at the Abbey is obviously preferred option for all, but, a ground at the Beehive site, totally unrealistic as it is, but possibly the most epic location. A possible new station to serve the ground and town (some room at the depot and sidings) , closer to pubs/facilities. Closer to bus stops for other areas in Cambridge and south Cambs. Closer to car parks and park n ride drop off points. Much better presence in the city. Blah blah blah
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tojo
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Post by tojo on Feb 16, 2024 11:48:31 GMT
Staying at the Abbey is obviously preferred option for all, but, a ground at the Beehive site, totally unrealistic as it is, but possibly the most epic location. A possible new station to serve the ground and town (some room at the depot and sidings) , closer to pubs/facilities. Closer to bus stops for other areas in Cambridge and south Cambs. Closer to car parks and park n ride drop off points. Much better presence in the city. Blah blah blah Wouldn't that be nice, but the reality is a new build stadium would be further out than than marshalls land, much further. And we would probably spend years talking and searching, before reverting back to plan 1....yawn.
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Post by artvandelay on Feb 16, 2024 12:03:31 GMT
Nice tip of the hat to "Brain" (sic) Attmore, Nick Pomery and Godric Smith as fellow CFU founders. The focus on match day experience seems to be serving the supporters and club well. Strongly in favour of change to grow forward. Can you grow backwards?
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Feb 16, 2024 12:16:05 GMT
I think there's a lot of 2+2=5 here. I don't think for a second that the club are reconsidering relocation. This will be more about working out whether there are things the club could do on site to compliment what's happening in the surrounding area, and maximise commercial benefit, than looking at rocking up at the Beehive, for example.
On the infrastructure points, its an interesting one. Retail tends to (or at least used to) have a much higher associated trip rate across the day than other uses. The conversion of the grafton and beehive (potentially) for life sciences may actually reduce traffic movements from those sites at times that would otherwise conflict with football traffic. For example, retail typically has very high trip demand at weekends, when people are free to shop. Whereas office/research uses tend to have peaks in the morning and evening, during the week, but much less movement on a Saturday afternoon.
Those plans could actually work in our favour...
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imp566
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Post by imp566 on Feb 16, 2024 12:24:40 GMT
I think there's a lot of 2+2=5 here. I don't think for a second that the club are reconsidering relocation. This will be more about working out whether there are things the club could do on site to compliment what's happening in the surrounding area, and maximise commercial benefit, than looking at rocking up at the Beehive, for example. On the infrastructure points, its an interesting one. Retail tends to (or at least used to) have a much higher associated trip rate across the day than other uses. The conversion of the grafton and beehive (potentially) for life sciences may actually reduce traffic movements from those sites at times that would otherwise conflict with football traffic. For example, retail typically has very high trip demand at weekends, when people are free to shop. Whereas office/research uses tend to have peaks in the morning and evening, during the week, but much less movement on a Saturday afternoon. Those plans could actually work in our favour... I do quite like how it is still refered to as the 'Beehive' area. How many people even understand that reference, seeing the store of that name closed decades ago!
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Post by cregclarrrk on Feb 16, 2024 12:33:13 GMT
I do quite like how it is still refered to as the 'Beehive' area. How many people even understand that reference, seeing the store of that name closed decades ago! “The Beehive Centre, shopping just the way you like it!”
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Post by zx10racer22 on Feb 16, 2024 12:47:47 GMT
Like Bonner was, Barry is definitely on this MB too: 'We hope to say more by the end of the season but please don’t confuse silence with inactivity.' There are relatively few places for the board to really understand what the fans are thinking at ground level. Makes absolute sense for any business owner to have ears in such places. Frankly, I'd be astounded if PB, or at least someone working closely with him in the club, didn't keep up to date with topics on the forum. That said, although our survival and eventual growth in League One, the training ground, the stadium and the support of the manager are all important topics widely discussed on the forum, the main thing we need to establish is which way PB voted on the poll of whether Liam Bennett's loan to Walsall was a good idea.
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Post by fatherjhackett on Feb 16, 2024 12:48:20 GMT
“The Beehive Centre, shopping just the way you like it!” I still regard it as the western quarry.
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Post by zx10racer22 on Feb 16, 2024 12:53:14 GMT
Too many people are adding 2+2 and finding their own alternative answer! This is the forum that guaranteed Mark Bonner was never going to get sacked, so collectively we have history on adding 2+2 and coming up with b*llocks.
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Post by jaydub on Feb 16, 2024 13:03:09 GMT
The spouting of b*llocks is surely a core value of this forum? that and cabbages
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