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Post by Brophypants on Jul 11, 2024 8:46:35 GMT
Mullin’s 30+ goals was an absolute freak of nature. Since then we’ve been happy with Ironside, Smith and Ahadme goal scoring returns of 10-15 goals. So I’d be happy with Loft getting 8-10 league goals this season with Lavery a couple more than that. Provided Monk finds some creativity in the middle of the pitch. 3 years is quite eye opening though so hopefully this becomes a good piece of Monkey business. Welcome to the U’s Ryan. Of course, Mullin's the stand out example, but he's far from the first striker that's found his shooting boots here. I trust we can get something good out of this one.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 11, 2024 8:53:35 GMT
I really liked what Loft said about his meetings with Monk and him identifying ways that he can improve his game. It suggests we've put way more thought into this signing than we're being given credit for and that Loft is a player that has been left to drift a little and would benefit from some good coaching.
Anyway, if he doesn't score after 5 minutes against spurs (spit) then I'm rioting.
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Post by malotru on Jul 11, 2024 9:09:57 GMT
I really liked what Loft said about his meetings with Monk and him identifying ways that he can improve his game. It suggests we've put way more thought into this signing than we're being given credit for and that Loft is a player that has been left to drift a little and would benefit from some good coaching. Anyway, if he doesn't score after 5 minutes against spurs (spit) then I'm rioting. Andrew We’ll never know anything about this mysterious friendly.
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Post by markt on Jul 11, 2024 9:28:04 GMT
Like any player he will get my full support while wearing the CUFC shirt, the past is just that... it's the future that's the most important. Welcome to the mighty U's Ryan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 11, 2024 9:56:16 GMT
Welcome Ryan! Whatever has gone before is now irrelevant, he has three years to show what he can do as a player and working with Baz, Gaz and Jason looks a good place for him to be.
Vile were truly an awful side last season, I’m really not sure what valid opinion could be drawn from Ryan’s solitary season with them. As I said, he starts afresh, the proverbial new chapter etc.
Noting he’s from Gravesend, so at least with us he’s back towards home again too.
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Post by powerline on Jul 11, 2024 10:02:44 GMT
Vale fan here in peace.
I do find this a very bizarre signing. Believe me when I say he is, without any doubt, the worst footballer I have ever seen down Vale in my 25 years of going. Bristol Rovers fans warned us when we signed him, and it seems our lot have done the same to you. I would bet my life savings he will not be the next Mullin, and I’d be honestly amazed if he scores more than 5 goals. He’s a pub player. How his agent has got him a league 1 team I really have no clue. I also have no clue how we got a fee for him, we thought we would have to pay him off. He was a major contributing factor to our relegation due to the complete lack of goal threat. I feel immense happiness knowing I will not have to watch him play next season.
However, what you will get is 100% effort. I really felt sorry for him at Vale, he was pretty much bullied by some of our fans. People booed him whenever he was brought on, and people laughed at him in the warm up if he shanked a shot wide. Really can not have been good for his mental state. And he seems a nice enough bloke. Our fans were a disgrace.
So I hope he does really well for you and bangs in 20 goals, no one would deserve it more after what he’s put up with. But please support him. Get behind him. You’ve got him for 3 years, if your fans get on his back from day 1 (like some of ours did) you’re not even giving him the chance to succeed.
All the best for the season, would like to see you guys stay up. Hopefully with Loft as player of the year after he’s banged in 20 goals.
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Post by El Goodo on Jul 11, 2024 10:08:27 GMT
Don't think he'll ever be the 20-goal type & don't think that's what we've signed him to be, either. Think we'll be looking for him to breach double figures & to act as a bit of a linking player whose movement creates space for others and who can bring them into the game.
On a different note, does he remind anyone else of Tim Robinson?
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Post by powerline on Jul 11, 2024 10:10:36 GMT
Don't think he'll ever be the 20-goal type & don't think that's what we've signed him to be, either. Think we'll be looking for him to breach double figures & to act as a bit of a linking player whose movement creates space for others and who can bring them into the game. On a different note, does he remind anyone else of Tim Robinson? I agree in fairness, don’t think you’ve signed him to do that either. Would just be nice if he did. Would shut some of our idiot fans up for a start.
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Post by danboyb on Jul 11, 2024 10:15:30 GMT
Can never underestimate the importance of nuisance value. He’ll add that in his own way. Think a good start is important for him, hopefully it’ll build his confidence and he can put last season behind him.
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Post by jwills61 on Jul 11, 2024 10:17:11 GMT
On a different note, does he remind anyone else of Tim Robinson? I kinda see it. Hopefully we’re not sat here at Christmas saying “I think you should leave” etc etc
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Post by jwills61 on Jul 11, 2024 10:32:31 GMT
I try not to take note of what other fans say about their former players when leaving.
1. Because 90% of football fans have no idea what they’re talking about
2. Because even if they were good, fans are likely to have a dig on the way out anyway
That said, it’s safe to say Vale fans universally (and very passionately) think he was awful for them. So I’ll take that at face value. Sounds like it’s gone rather badly for him there.
I’m surprised at the length of the contract but the fee doesn’t really bother me. It’s probably less than what we’ve collected for the likes of Simps and Lanks combined. So no harm done. I think it’ll be nominal.
I also think with players like Loft - who are physically dominant in some way - e.g rapid or in Loft’s case tall and strong - every coach thinks they can get something out of them.
Because the raw tools you need are there and it can hide a lot of sins.
I’m not saying this is going to work. Could be the disastrous signing Vale fans think it’ll be.
But I think since being in L1 we've generally struggled to find enough players with good physical profiles.
Too many players that aren’t physically standout in any one way. Not particularly quick or strong or tall, just a bit middling.
We’ve asked the club to get creative and maybe their way of doing it is signing someone with the physical tools Monk wants but will need coaching, confidence and something different tactically to make it work.
One thing’s for sure, he’s gonna feel like he owes us and Monk. That’s a start.
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Post by cuoutside on Jul 11, 2024 10:51:35 GMT
Vale fan here in peace. I do find this a very bizarre signing. Believe me when I say he is, without any doubt, the worst footballer I have ever seen down Vale in my 25 years of going. Bristol Rovers fans warned us when we signed him, and it seems our lot have done the same to you. I would bet my life savings he will not be the next Mullin, and I’d be honestly amazed if he scores more than 5 goals. He’s a pub player. How his agent has got him a league 1 team I really have no clue. I also have no clue how we got a fee for him, we thought we would have to pay him off. He was a major contributing factor to our relegation due to the complete lack of goal threat. I feel immense happiness knowing I will not have to watch him play next season. However, what you will get is 100% effort. I really felt sorry for him at Vale, he was pretty much bullied by some of our fans. People booed him whenever he was brought on, and people laughed at him in the warm up if he shanked a shot wide. Really can not have been good for his mental state. And he seems a nice enough bloke. Our fans were a disgrace. So I hope he does really well for you and bangs in 20 goals, no one would deserve it more after what he’s put up with. But please support him. Get behind him. You’ve got him for 3 years, if your fans get on his back from day 1 (like some of ours did) you’re not even giving him the chance to succeed. All the best for the season, would like to see you guys stay up. Hopefully with Loft as player of the year after he’s banged in 20 goals. Surely goal threat comes from the whole team and how they play, not just one player? Plus just look at Lofts wiki page, he’s never scored a great amount of goals anywhere. Can only go off the 2 games we played against each other (granted one of them was a dead rubber) but Vale had little threat in either game.
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Post by jwills61 on Jul 11, 2024 10:54:55 GMT
One other thing that might be significant, the last three teams he’s played for:
- Scunthorpe, in free fall - Bristol Rovers, managed by a mad man in Barton - Vale, just a bit crap
Not ideal settings for anyone.
Might just need a nice club and a manager that believes in him.
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Post by powerline on Jul 11, 2024 11:04:38 GMT
Vale fan here in peace. I do find this a very bizarre signing. Believe me when I say he is, without any doubt, the worst footballer I have ever seen down Vale in my 25 years of going. Bristol Rovers fans warned us when we signed him, and it seems our lot have done the same to you. I would bet my life savings he will not be the next Mullin, and I’d be honestly amazed if he scores more than 5 goals. He’s a pub player. How his agent has got him a league 1 team I really have no clue. I also have no clue how we got a fee for him, we thought we would have to pay him off. He was a major contributing factor to our relegation due to the complete lack of goal threat. I feel immense happiness knowing I will not have to watch him play next season. However, what you will get is 100% effort. I really felt sorry for him at Vale, he was pretty much bullied by some of our fans. People booed him whenever he was brought on, and people laughed at him in the warm up if he shanked a shot wide. Really can not have been good for his mental state. And he seems a nice enough bloke. Our fans were a disgrace. So I hope he does really well for you and bangs in 20 goals, no one would deserve it more after what he’s put up with. But please support him. Get behind him. You’ve got him for 3 years, if your fans get on his back from day 1 (like some of ours did) you’re not even giving him the chance to succeed. All the best for the season, would like to see you guys stay up. Hopefully with Loft as player of the year after he’s banged in 20 goals. Surely goal threat comes from the whole team and how they play, not just one player? Plus just look at Lofts wiki page, he’s never scored a great amount of goals anywhere. Can only go off the 2 games we played against each other (granted one of them was a dead rubber) but Vale had little threat in either game. Yes you are partially correct. We had very little goal threat as a team. However, Loft was not a victim of that, rather an integral part of it. He’s rarely in the right position to take chances, and when he gets them, he doesn’t score. Missed some absolutely awful sitters or 1v1s last season. His link up play is also really poor. Gives the ball away constantly. Also has a head like a 50p piece. I do think part of that was probably down to confidence, which is why I asked you guys in my initial post to back him. If you don’t, then you’ll definitely end up with the same player we had, and trust me, you don’t want to see that.
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Post by amberisbackdrink on Jul 11, 2024 11:33:10 GMT
From reading these comments this is the worst striker we've ever signed. Based on message board verdicts in the past, the best striker we've ever signed is Daryl Clare. So I'll reserve judgement. No Sir, you are forgetting Devon White. I’ll raise your Devon White and raise you Ollie Morah.
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