imp566
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Post by imp566 on Jul 12, 2024 7:51:13 GMT
Agreed, although I think Lyle Taylor might argue that a little? Its more keyboard warriors that I was thinking of, which can be equally as damaging to confidence and morale.
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Post by barnwellboyz98 on Jul 12, 2024 7:54:56 GMT
Gaymen to that. You've got Pot Vale supporters saying fans got on his back from day one and then wonder why he was garbage. Must be so damaging on the confidence of a footballer for that to happen and it can't not have an impact on his game. I hope we're more supportive because there's clearly an ability there we can benefit from. Andrew I agree, but remember how scapegoats have been formed on here plenty of times when players don't match up to supporter's expectations! I hope he has a good start and gets the support any United player deserves. Scapegoating on here, sure, that's normal, but booing a player in the warmup or when they come on? In all the years I've been going to the Abbey I've never seen that happen (happy to be corrected). Not sure what kind of fanbase Port Vale have but that reflects much worse on them than Loft.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 12, 2024 8:02:48 GMT
Yeah, on here I think it's generally acceptable. I know this is the internet and open to all but you're mad if you if come on here or Facebook as a player.
I think Jason Rees got a bit of abuse but I don't recall (m)any others.
Andrew
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Jul 12, 2024 8:32:12 GMT
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Post by artvandelay on Jul 12, 2024 8:32:12 GMT
Lovely to hear the magnificent Barry Glendenning getting on the "who the feck is Ryan Loft" chat. I had forgotten that sponge was alive, thanks for ruining my morning!
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Post by madmarvin on Jul 12, 2024 9:17:49 GMT
Also happy to be corrected but I'm sure Colin Alcide got booed when he came on once as a sub.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 12, 2024 9:19:43 GMT
Ah yeah, quite likely.
The Habbin sure hated Bimson too.
Andrew
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Post by nickpom on Jul 12, 2024 9:20:57 GMT
There was a ‘nice person’ in the Main Stand who booed Liam O’Neil when he came on a few times… sadly it’s not totally unheard of.
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Post by flair on Jul 12, 2024 9:26:53 GMT
There was a ‘nice person’ in the Main Stand who booed Liam O’Neil when he came on a few times… sadly it’s not totally unheard of. Robbie Turner!
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Post by barnwellboyz98 on Jul 12, 2024 9:41:46 GMT
There was a ‘nice person’ in the Main Stand who booed Liam O’Neil when he came on a few times… sadly it’s not totally unheard of. I'm shocked, shocked I say, that anyone would boo the Swavesey Pirlo! I don't doubt that it has happened, but these seem fairly isolated. The fact that 2 Vale fans have come on to our forum to talk about it makes it sound like it was a recurring thing there. I hope we wouldn't do that, anyway.
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Post by themiddle on Jul 12, 2024 9:55:17 GMT
Fact of the matter is, that irrespective of what he has ever done or not done elsewhere, he is now one of us. As such we get behind him and support him. Period.
I've seen plenty of "poor players" over the years. But it's only really apparent lack of effort that has ever brought any jeers. Many of these "poor players" have blossomed into decent ones, with support.
As long as a player has given everything they've always received support at the Abbey. And they always will from me. You can't ask more from a human being than to do their best.
Quality is a subjective measure. There will always be better players and worse players. 100% effort is mandatory.
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Post by spartacus on Jul 12, 2024 16:06:31 GMT
Vale fans might be laughing at us now but I think we'll have the last laugh when they've seen Laurent Tolaj play, If he's the same player we saw I find it very hard to believe Loft can be any worse.
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Post by imp566 on Jul 12, 2024 16:16:56 GMT
Vale fans might be laughing at us now but I think we'll have the last laugh when they've seen Laurent Tolaj play, If he's the same player we saw I find it very hard to believe Loft can be any worse. That's a very good point and one that has gone unnoticed!
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 12, 2024 16:21:07 GMT
Tolaj has been a non-league breakout so I think that might be a quality signing for them tbf.
Andrew
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Post by amberisbackdrink on Jul 12, 2024 16:22:35 GMT
Attitude and effort count as much as previous records. Taylor came here with a track record of scoring goals but he disappeared.
Maybe Loft will love it here and find his goalscoring boots. Will back him whatever my initial thoughts. Hope he makes me look daft at the end of the season and becomes a club legend.
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Post by mb1977 on Jul 12, 2024 17:17:13 GMT
The lad comes from a good pedigree and clubs have paid money for him in the past, suggesting he has something about him.
Good strikers often just need igniting, right manager (Mullin, Ironside, Martin Butler) right environment. The fact we’ve paid money and Garry has given him a 3 year deal suggests he sees something and ultimately that’s his job.
He’s one of us now so give the lad a chance. Anyone thinking we were going to bring in a striker who’s scored 20 a season for the last three years needs to roll themself another spliff!
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