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Post by El Goodo on Oct 4, 2011 9:57:50 GMT
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Post by Russ Greaves on Oct 4, 2011 10:01:55 GMT
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Post by El Goodo on Oct 4, 2011 10:04:46 GMT
Whoopsy.
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Post by Russ Greaves on Oct 4, 2011 10:13:44 GMT
That wasn't a 'wheel invented' - that thread is from a while back, before the season started, so now we can see the impact it's having, at least as far as attendances go.
I'd be interested to see how it's affecting their finances and what their plan is for year two, three and beyond.
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Post by belly77 on Oct 4, 2011 10:51:05 GMT
I really can't see what we have got to lose by trying out something like this.
I'm sure the floating fans would snap them up.
I managed to persuade two floaters to come to the FGR game. I've been trying to tempt them back but they both feel £17 is just too much to pay for a conference game.
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Post by El Goodo on Oct 4, 2011 11:01:49 GMT
Quite rightly.
It's a plan that, if the sums are done properly, could probably be financially beneficial in the short term but it's the long term impact that's important. More than anything it's the retention rate of those fans if/when the prices get hiked again
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Post by Russ Greaves on Oct 4, 2011 11:17:08 GMT
I don't think they're making any extra money from this.
They sold 1,400 season tickets last season but averaged 2,900 - so they had 1,500 paying on the day every week (if not more, accounting for the fact some ST holders won't have gone every week).
This season they've sold 5,900 but are averaging 5,594. They'll be getting very few pay-on-the-day fans, except visiting supporters. Because of its location and the facilities on offer, I bet the average away attendance there is one of the lowest in the league.
While they will be boosted by increased sales of the things like programmes and food and an increase in commercial revenue, I don't think that will compensate the loss of gate revenues.
They've only taken roughly the same amount from ST sales as they did last season.
Questionable business model aside, it's a great initiative for the fans and local community.
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Post by cufc4life on Oct 4, 2011 11:32:36 GMT
the only way to attract more fans through the turnstiles is by dropping matchday prices, then avertising it/letting fans who rarely come anymore know that prices have gone down + a very good season ahead for fans to see and be apart of = our attendences would definately rise quite abit i reckon!
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Post by cambcam on Oct 4, 2011 11:42:19 GMT
As belly says, £17 for a conference game - ouch.
It might not seem too bad to those of us that are used to these things, but it is a fair chunk of money to a lot of people.
I`ve often thought promotion back to the football league would be the catalyst for some whopping price rises, and fear the stadium move would see the same.
Was it Colchester that caned their fans when they moved to their new stadium? I seem to recall a thread on here about that.
I`m sure we`d get a load of flannel about `family deals` and various packages, but no doubt the cash-cow would get milked to within an inch of it`s life.
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Post by belly77 on Oct 4, 2011 14:33:26 GMT
Surely we could make up the short fall in ticket prices by an increase in sponsorship and match day sales. Get the catering outlets back into our own hands, start producing some decent local food and drink and make money from that side of things. It has also got to be better for everyone involved having a stadium with more people in it. The matchday atmosphere will improve and hopefully we can carry over the new fans when we move. As the current economic climate stands I really can't see us gaining a huge increase in fans unless something is done. Now would be a good time to strike as we actually play some entertaining football.
We should be banging it out across the city that we are a football club who's core is built around a team from within the local area.
On a side note. Why aren't the vending machines stocked up anymore? Surely that is one of the easiest ways to make a bit of extra cash?
And can we have another beer festival. Little things like that were great. We should be looking to do things like that monthly.
Time to start moving forward I feel or we'll be left further behind.
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Post by nickpom on Oct 4, 2011 14:59:15 GMT
Belly, a reasonable estimate of revenue and profit from catering is £1 revenue, 50p profit per head per game - even a couple of thousand extra on the gate will only yield £20-25,000 extra in catering revenue.
It truly isn't that simple - you're gambling with the club's most important revenue stream and we really should keep in mind that it has not always worked; Bradford and Hartlepool experiences are positive (although Bradford remain useless on the pitch despite their large crowds) but Walsall lost money and gave it up quickly.
I agree about beer festivals and similar events being really important; the problem is we have minimal paid staff at the club now. If we want a beer festival we - the fans - probably need to organise one.
All the best
Nick
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Post by smiffo on Oct 4, 2011 15:55:39 GMT
Just on the beer festival thing, when that one (has it only been done once?) was held under the South Stand I had a couple of mates come to the game purely to go to the beer festival after. If there was something of interest going on within the ground straight after the game, if my experience is anything to go by it's easier to get people along. Maybe something simple but I don't suppose we're that bothered if people are paying to get in for the game if they're there for the football or not?!
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Post by bean on Oct 4, 2011 17:18:03 GMT
My regular football buddy finds it expensive now and hardly comes to games, and my Arsenal season ticket holder mate (ho used to come to 3 or 4 games a year) won't pay our entrance fee.
I think we have to be realistic and price ourselves accordingly.
What harm could a £10 game do? Even a fiver?
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Post by Russ Greaves on Oct 4, 2011 17:19:05 GMT
What harm? Well, potentially the club could go out of business.
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Post by willweston on Oct 4, 2011 17:22:22 GMT
One £10 game could send the club out of business? Now, now Russ...lets not exaggerage!  |
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