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Post by Russ Greaves on Jun 30, 2015 8:44:14 GMT
It's tricky in winter as these base layers are good at protecting against the cold, but once you really get going they're so efficient at trapping your body heat that it gets stifling.
I suppose in summer you know where you stand from the off - it's going to be hot. Best weather for me is around 10 degrees, light drizzle, gentle breeze. It's just refreshing.
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Post by cambcam on Jun 30, 2015 15:56:33 GMT
Been meaning to call in at the sweat shop and get the proper assessment done for ages. Just did a 20 minute light run on the treadmill on Friday and was bloody sore over the weekend, so something is clearly not right. I'm happy to keep the runs short, just two or three times a week, on a treadmill, with the correct measured shoes (say £70 -£100?), but if I'm still getting trouble after that it's time to call it a day I reckon. Not bothered about not being able to run for hours, as prefer to use a run as part of a hour or two fitness/leisure session (cross trainer/run/swim/sauna/spa) but the running is the part that I really enjoy and lets you get a sweat on. Just have to see how this one pans out I guess.... Definitely check out the Sweat Shop Cambcam. I have been really impressed with them. The bloke who served me last time has run 6 marathons and he gave me some great tips. As mentioned already, if you get the shoes right everything else will fall in to place. Best of luck! Sure, will definitely check it out. There was a 'mature' lady serving when my other half went for her shoes a few months back. This particular lady was also knocking out marathons in awesome times and gave no end of helpful advice. The Mrs. Cambcam had the bright idea of running the Cambridge half marathon with just 6 weeks notice having never run before, and the aforementioned lady serving took one look at her 'running gait' and simply said, "you will run quickly, you'll have no problems at all" - which was a surprise, which turned out to be right. On the subject of the 'running gait', I'm pretty sure I'm all over the place which is probably causing a few problems. I've always had a slight 'toe-out' walk (nothing excessive I might add), but had a bit of shock recently when came off a push bike and landed very heavily on one side. I was in agony and was taken to A&E, and during the 'hobbling' assessment they commented that they didn't think anything was broken, but they picked up straight away that my right foot was 'significantly' turned further outwards than the left, which is apparently symptomatic of a broken hip! Nothing was, or has been broken, but something must be causing the 'twist', and what with the increasing soreness, it would make sense to get that checked out medically first. I've got the big London 100 mile bike ride coming up on August 2nd and don't want to bugger that one up for sure, so am tempted to leave the running for the time being to let the knees recover, but really want to run to get a decent fitness level beforehand too. Common sense is going to have to prevail I think, one step at a time, so-to-speak.
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Post by shubs on Jun 30, 2015 19:30:20 GMT
Wow-very best of luck with the bike ride. Sounds like you need to hold off on the running until that is done. Bet you have a very good level of fitness from the cycling though.
it's a totally different muscle set from running though isn't it? I tried some cycling as part of my marathon training the other year but I really struggled so I jacked it in pretty fast.
The comments about the temperature are spot on. I collapsed from dehydration and overheating at the end of the Brighton Marathon. It wasn't rocket science when I thought about it. My 20 mile runs in training were all done in February/March when it was bastard cold. On the day however, the temperature got up to 21 degrees and I didn't drink enough. The consolation was that I got treated by a very appealing little blonde medic whose opening line was "Do you mind if I undress you?" You couldn't make it up!
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Post by cambcam on Jul 2, 2015 5:55:53 GMT
I'd imagine nutrition/hydration really has to treated with respect with endurance events, particularly in this heat.
For a 50/60 mile ride I can get away with chucking a few energy bars in the back pocket and just cracking on. I'm thinking for 7 hours or so on a 100, the nutrition and hydration requirements will need much more careful planning. The heat of the last few days has brought the importance of that home, it would be dangerous to take part in any endurance event in that heat ill-prepared.
Still, the heat and injury has been an excuse to lounge by the outdoor pool, don't want it to be all hard work this fitness lark.....
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Post by sneakyfate on Jul 7, 2015 15:56:30 GMT
I don't very often come on the "Social" forum, so only just spotted this thread. I do a fair bit of running (as well as cycling) mostly in the 5-10km distance range. I love the Saturday morning parkruns, I'm only 6 away from joining the "100 club". I mostly run these at Milton Country Park, but the course at Wimpole Estate is spectacular, if you can drag yourself up a fearsome hill at 2km. Never managed a full marathon (yet), have done a few half marathons down the years, best time was about 25 years ago (1h 35m), age is now taking its toll, and my last one (last year) was 1h 53m.
Last Saturday after Milton parkrun, which is only 5 minutes bike ride from my house, I found a flyer on my bike for a "Duathlon" in Newmarket in August. 3 mile run, 14 mile bike ride, 3 mile run. I might give that a go, I've been put off triathlon by the fact that I'm a total rubbish swimmer, I'd be knackered before I got anywhere near the cycling stage, so duathlon appeals more. I'll post the details if anyone's interested.
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Post by shubs on Jul 7, 2015 19:58:36 GMT
Those half marathon times are pretty creditable, Sneaky. I reckon anything under 2 hours is decent. I have done a few myself and they have all been around the 1.40 mark, give or take a couple of minutes either way. The Park Runs are excellent aren't they? The great thing about them is that they are all done and dusted by shortly after 9AM and then the day is your own.
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Post by belly77 on Jul 7, 2015 20:08:05 GMT
Park runs we're formed by my former Oxford Brooke's FC central midfield partner Buddha. He was a little fat lad hence the nickname. He would do my running for me which was surprising back then considering his shape and size but we struck up a good partnership. Park runs are global now. I personally prefer a slightly longer distance as pace has never been my thing.
Buddha (or Tom)also hosts the excellent running podcast Marathon Talk. I often listen to it on my longer runs. It's a running podcast so don't let the marathon bit put you off.
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Post by rocky on Jul 8, 2015 12:58:07 GMT
In the now outdated Books Your Are Reading thread, here in Social Chat, there was a discussion about good running books (but that was 4 years ago). I'd like to recommend Running Free: A Runner's Journey Back to Nature, by Richard Askwith, published last year. He writes about getting beyond all of the competitiveness and commercialism associated with running, and just finding the simple pleasures in running once again. Sounds simplistic, but it is well written and thought provoking. (probably helps that I tend to agree with most of what he says)
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Post by sneakyfate on Jul 9, 2015 9:23:11 GMT
Park runs we're formed by my former Oxford Brooke's FC central midfield partner Buddha... Really? According to what I've read (e.g. on Wikipedia) it was started by Paul Sinton-Hewitt at Bushy Park in 2004. Obviously he didn't do it all on his own though, so perhaps your friend helped?
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Post by belly77 on Jul 11, 2015 17:21:18 GMT
If you look on the Park Run website he is down as the Managing Director. He joined in 2007 so maybe I was a bit off the mark ;-) He was responsible for taking the Runs out of Bushy according to that website. I haven't seen him since uni, only found out it was him after listening to the podcast.
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Post by vanni on Aug 10, 2015 15:40:52 GMT
No one's doing any running? Good. I thought I was the only one who's sitting on his a**e all day.
Seriously, I'm only doing some fast walking presently, as I'm feeling my ankle again. Also need to buy a new pair of running shoes, as I think the cushioning's not doing the job it's supposed to do. Which reminds that I hate shopping for a new pair with all those different brands and large selection of running shoe styles on offer nowadays, plus the fact that one never really knows what he's buying until he puts on the new pair and runs/walks for at least a week. Recommendations from friends on which running shoes are good are, imo, useless, as no one's got the same feet and running style.
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Post by sneakyfate on Aug 10, 2015 21:16:34 GMT
Also need to buy a new pair of running shoes, as I think the cushioning's not doing the job it's supposed to do. Which reminds that I hate shopping for a new pair... You need to go to a decent running shop where they stick you on a treadmill and do a "gait analysis". Sweatshop at the David Lloyd gym off Coldhams Lane are very good in my experience. If you've got a wonky gait, as I have due to seriously flat feet (technically, I "pronate" very badly), you'll find your choice of suitable shoes is much reduced, as you may need shoes that offer "motion control". My situation has improved greatly since I got custom orthotics made (at great expense!) which I wear with all footwear except slippers - I can now choose from more "normal" running shoes, and at Sweatshop they fully understand the situation and don't mind me removing the insoles from shoes I'm trying on and sticking my orthotics inside. In short, they're really helpful. If you do parkrun you get 10% off by showing your barcode, as Sweatshop are one of the major sponsors. The downside is that it's quite a small shop, so they may not have what's best for you in stock - however they're quite happy to suggest you buy them from Sweatshop's online store if they haven't got what you need.
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Post by jasonhall on Aug 11, 2015 12:16:24 GMT
I got my runners from Hobbs and Advance Performance and had no problems with them. Personally I found the Advance Performance in Pboro better than the one in Cambridge but that's just my opinion.
The great thing about running is anyone can do it and its easy to do when you are away from home - chuck a pair of runners, t shirt and shorts in your bag and you are good to go.
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Post by Russ Greaves on Aug 12, 2015 18:19:49 GMT
I've hardly done any running for a few weeks because life got in the way. But I ran in 30 degree heat along a beach while on holiday and only managed to keep going for as long as I did because people were looking at me - I imagine they were incredibly impressed...
Did 5k yesterday, about 90 seconds slower than my PB.
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Post by shubs on Aug 13, 2015 13:27:46 GMT
I've hardly done any running for a few weeks because life got in the way. But I ran in 30 degree heat along a beach while on holiday and only managed to keep going for as long as I did because people were looking at me - I imagine they were incredibly impressed... Did 5k yesterday, about 90 seconds slower than my PB. Fair play to you Russ-at least you are out there doing it. My resolution to get fit over the summer is disappearing in a haze of lager and white wine that would put Paul McGrath to shame!
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