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Post by madmarvin on Mar 17, 2020 20:19:45 GMT
I was sent home from work today as I'm in the "at risk" category. I am asthmatic.
I can only do so much of my job from here and I have to say right now it feels pretty weird especially as this is for an indefinite period of time.
Maybe I ought to stock up on beer ready for when the pubs shut/go out of business.
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Post by Rico on Mar 17, 2020 20:37:45 GMT
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Post by cambcam on Mar 17, 2020 22:23:40 GMT
My wife is a respiratory specialist who has been an academic (Phd, Pulmanory Rehabilitation) for a number of years. She’s seen some central government nhs planning information and expects to be called back to the “frontline”.
Definitely has the feel of a war effort. Worrying times.
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Post by mrjimmy on Mar 17, 2020 23:15:09 GMT
It really puts Brexit into context
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Post by irishfan on Mar 18, 2020 5:55:11 GMT
I don’t know the solution, nobody does
Just to say that so far calls for an all-island approach in Ireland has gotten nowhere.
There is little point in the Republic locking down when a few hundred metres up the road or across a river Northern Ireland follows another path.
Anyway might be the first time in history the “world is 6,000 years old” DUP ever looked at science.
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Post by kentishu on Mar 18, 2020 10:05:13 GMT
This was sent to me by a friend from Spain. Although it says the US didn't win any medals in the World Military Games, I believe they did win a small number - however I cannot find the full medal table anywhere on the internet. This may just be a series of coincidences, but then again it may not. CONFIRMED - FORT DETRICK, THE UNITED STATES BIOLOGICAL WARFARE LAB IS WHERE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN VIRUSES LEAKED AUGUST 2019 US SOLDIERS WERE INFECTED 300 HUNDRED CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL SPREAD OUT IN WUHAN WITH SOME VISITING THE WET MARKETS US CONSULATE IN WUHAN FULLY EVACUATED WITH BIOWEAPON DRUMS LEFT IN GROUNDS WEEKS LATER FIRST VICTIM OF CORONAVIRUS APPEARED IN WUHAN US FOUND TO HAVE 5 STRAINS, WUHAN HAS ONE PROVING THE UNITED STATES IS THE ORIGIN OF THE CORONAVIRUS READ ON PS - FURTHER PROOF IN POST FOLLOWING IN COMMENT BELOW “As posted by June Lee: August 6, 2019, the US's main biological warfare lab at Fort Detrick was issued a "ceast and desist" order because of violation of safety standards and protocol, and leaks. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virus-biological-us-army-weapons-fort-detrick-leak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.htmlAugust - September 2019, "statewide outbreak" of a mysterious respiratory emerged in the US, causing severe respiratory diseases in a few hundred people. This was blamed on vaping although people had been vaping for more than a decade without such outbreaks. Officials were unable to find any relation to a specific vaping device and addictive. www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/mysterious-vaping-lung-injuries-may-have-flown-under-regulatory-radar-n1046771q13fox.com/2019/09/16/a-statewide-outbreak-two-new-cases-of-lung-disease-linked-to-vaping-in-washington/www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-08-09/wisconsin-officials-12-cases-of-severe-lung-disease-after-vapingAugust 2019 - Jan 2020, the US CDC reported that the US is gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons ever, with 12000 deaths. On 12 March 2020, the CDC director admitted that some COVID-19 deaths were misdiagnosed as the flu because COVID-19 were found when they did posthumous tests. www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-season-2020-what-to-knowOctober 18 - 27, 2019, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Wuhan. The US sent a contingent of 350 athletes. They did not win any medals. The athletes toured Wuhan. November 2019, the Chinese press reported that five athletes who had suffered from infectious disease had been discharged from hospital. mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNrMYNics3XIDUZpwGYKNsN9AyAB6J282ml3BvPxrnAiaXTdQuvu5kEatQ/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNmicvyn5wozaksjicInYAGlcduHHwyHrJtzIEuZnRvmKB2T83pEibZVNcg/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1November 2019, Wuhan locals were detected with COVID-19, with a spike of such terms in local social media. This coincided with the post-incubation period after the Military World Games. www.businessinsider.sg/coronavirus-patients-zero-contracted-case-november-2020-3?r=US&IR=TDecember 1, 2019, the first confirmed case of COVID-19 was detected in Wuhan. Subsequently more than 80000 people will be infected. Of the first 41 cases, 34% were not related to the wildlife market. www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltextDaniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, claimed that because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing, and the presence of infected people with no links to wildlife market, the virus could not have originated from the wildlife market. Kristian Andersen, an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute, agreed with the assessment. www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globallyGenotype assay of COVID-19 revealed 5 variants/strains (group ABCDE) of the virus. Most regions in the world have 1-2 COVID-19 variants including Hubei (mainly group C), and UK (Group 😎. US is the only country with all 5 variants (Group ABCDE). In Virology 101, the region with the most variants is the origin of the disease. mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbN8unCYVZIE7wMduKBDFgfy2cmbTxn0yj32eRTf77WzjfKaqk52FAd4w/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNJxp8mz3Wep5HqRXqic4X2KxMoPI7FJfWsLib6EJpicJjTkicxqeKnrHkDw/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=125 Jan, 2020, Japanese couple went for a 10 days vacation in Hawaii. On the second week they fell ill. On return to Japan they were tested and confirmed to have COVID-19. www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/coronavirus-hawaii-japan.htmlItaly lab confirmed that the strain of COVID-19 is different from the one circulating in China, and that the circulation of the virus is not so recent, and had been spreading undetected for weeks. www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detectedChina's coronavirus expert Dr Zhong Nanshan, the discoverer of SARS, said that although COVID-19 was detected in China, it doesn't necessary mean that it originated from China. As of March 12, 2020, the US had only tested 10000 people, and COVID-19 was confirmed in 1600 of them. As a comparison South Korea tests 10000 people a day, but the disease rate trajectory is the same as the US. This suggests that there is a great number of infected people in the US, just that they were not tested. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21178289/confirmed-coronavirus-cases-us-countries-italy-iran-singapore-hong-kong
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Post by cufctheparrot on Mar 18, 2020 18:47:44 GMT
Thanks for posting Kentishu, your fast becoming the only form of entertainment there is now.
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Post by Russ Greaves on Mar 18, 2020 19:02:19 GMT
This was sent to me by a friend from Spain. Although it says the US didn't win any medals in the World Military Games, I believe they did win a small number - however I cannot find the full medal table anywhere on the internet. This may just be a series of coincidences, but then again it may not. CONFIRMED - FORT DETRICK, THE UNITED STATES BIOLOGICAL WARFARE LAB IS WHERE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN VIRUSES LEAKED AUGUST 2019 US SOLDIERS WERE INFECTED 300 HUNDRED CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL SPREAD OUT IN WUHAN WITH SOME VISITING THE WET MARKETS US CONSULATE IN WUHAN FULLY EVACUATED WITH BIOWEAPON DRUMS LEFT IN GROUNDS WEEKS LATER FIRST VICTIM OF CORONAVIRUS APPEARED IN WUHAN US FOUND TO HAVE 5 STRAINS, WUHAN HAS ONE PROVING THE UNITED STATES IS THE ORIGIN OF THE CORONAVIRUS READ ON PS - FURTHER PROOF IN POST FOLLOWING IN COMMENT BELOW “As posted by June Lee: August 6, 2019, the US's main biological warfare lab at Fort Detrick was issued a "ceast and desist" order because of violation of safety standards and protocol, and leaks. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virus-biological-us-army-weapons-fort-detrick-leak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.htmlAugust - September 2019, "statewide outbreak" of a mysterious respiratory emerged in the US, causing severe respiratory diseases in a few hundred people. This was blamed on vaping although people had been vaping for more than a decade without such outbreaks. Officials were unable to find any relation to a specific vaping device and addictive. www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/mysterious-vaping-lung-injuries-may-have-flown-under-regulatory-radar-n1046771q13fox.com/2019/09/16/a-statewide-outbreak-two-new-cases-of-lung-disease-linked-to-vaping-in-washington/www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-08-09/wisconsin-officials-12-cases-of-severe-lung-disease-after-vapingAugust 2019 - Jan 2020, the US CDC reported that the US is gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons ever, with 12000 deaths. On 12 March 2020, the CDC director admitted that some COVID-19 deaths were misdiagnosed as the flu because COVID-19 were found when they did posthumous tests. www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-season-2020-what-to-knowOctober 18 - 27, 2019, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Wuhan. The US sent a contingent of 350 athletes. They did not win any medals. The athletes toured Wuhan. November 2019, the Chinese press reported that five athletes who had suffered from infectious disease had been discharged from hospital. mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNrMYNics3XIDUZpwGYKNsN9AyAB6J282ml3BvPxrnAiaXTdQuvu5kEatQ/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNmicvyn5wozaksjicInYAGlcduHHwyHrJtzIEuZnRvmKB2T83pEibZVNcg/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1November 2019, Wuhan locals were detected with COVID-19, with a spike of such terms in local social media. This coincided with the post-incubation period after the Military World Games. www.businessinsider.sg/coronavirus-patients-zero-contracted-case-november-2020-3?r=US&IR=TDecember 1, 2019, the first confirmed case of COVID-19 was detected in Wuhan. Subsequently more than 80000 people will be infected. Of the first 41 cases, 34% were not related to the wildlife market. www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltextDaniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, claimed that because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing, and the presence of infected people with no links to wildlife market, the virus could not have originated from the wildlife market. Kristian Andersen, an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute, agreed with the assessment. www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globallyGenotype assay of COVID-19 revealed 5 variants/strains (group ABCDE) of the virus. Most regions in the world have 1-2 COVID-19 variants including Hubei (mainly group C), and UK (Group 😎. US is the only country with all 5 variants (Group ABCDE). In Virology 101, the region with the most variants is the origin of the disease. mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbN8unCYVZIE7wMduKBDFgfy2cmbTxn0yj32eRTf77WzjfKaqk52FAd4w/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNJxp8mz3Wep5HqRXqic4X2KxMoPI7FJfWsLib6EJpicJjTkicxqeKnrHkDw/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=125 Jan, 2020, Japanese couple went for a 10 days vacation in Hawaii. On the second week they fell ill. On return to Japan they were tested and confirmed to have COVID-19. www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/coronavirus-hawaii-japan.htmlItaly lab confirmed that the strain of COVID-19 is different from the one circulating in China, and that the circulation of the virus is not so recent, and had been spreading undetected for weeks. www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detectedChina's coronavirus expert Dr Zhong Nanshan, the discoverer of SARS, said that although COVID-19 was detected in China, it doesn't necessary mean that it originated from China. As of March 12, 2020, the US had only tested 10000 people, and COVID-19 was confirmed in 1600 of them. As a comparison South Korea tests 10000 people a day, but the disease rate trajectory is the same as the US. This suggests that there is a great number of infected people in the US, just that they were not tested. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21178289/confirmed-coronavirus-cases-us-countries-italy-iran-singapore-hong-kongAnd all the mainstream media are in on the conspiracy, hence no credible reporting? It would be the biggest story in recorded history.
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Post by neilmc4 on Mar 18, 2020 19:49:25 GMT
A degree in Modern History and 30+ years of following politics on both sides of the Atlantic has led me to one inescapable conclusion - governments the world over are way too incompetent to ever pull off any kind of planned conspiracy on a scale like this , but they are certainly more than capable of monumental f***-ups. If this pandemic IS man-made then my money would always be lumped on to balls-up rather than Machievellian scheming.
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Post by moose on Mar 18, 2020 23:48:28 GMT
This was sent to me by a friend from Spain. Although it says the US didn't win any medals in the World Military Games, I believe they did win a small number - however I cannot find the full medal table anywhere on the internet. This may just be a series of coincidences, but then again it may not. CONFIRMED - FORT DETRICK, THE UNITED STATES BIOLOGICAL WARFARE LAB IS WHERE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN VIRUSES LEAKED AUGUST 2019 US SOLDIERS WERE INFECTED 300 HUNDRED CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL SPREAD OUT IN WUHAN WITH SOME VISITING THE WET MARKETS US CONSULATE IN WUHAN FULLY EVACUATED WITH BIOWEAPON DRUMS LEFT IN GROUNDS WEEKS LATER FIRST VICTIM OF CORONAVIRUS APPEARED IN WUHAN US FOUND TO HAVE 5 STRAINS, WUHAN HAS ONE PROVING THE UNITED STATES IS THE ORIGIN OF THE CORONAVIRUS READ ON PS - FURTHER PROOF IN POST FOLLOWING IN COMMENT BELOW “As posted by June Lee: August 6, 2019, the US's main biological warfare lab at Fort Detrick was issued a "ceast and desist" order because of violation of safety standards and protocol, and leaks. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virus-biological-us-army-weapons-fort-detrick-leak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.htmlAugust - September 2019, "statewide outbreak" of a mysterious respiratory emerged in the US, causing severe respiratory diseases in a few hundred people. This was blamed on vaping although people had been vaping for more than a decade without such outbreaks. Officials were unable to find any relation to a specific vaping device and addictive. www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/mysterious-vaping-lung-injuries-may-have-flown-under-regulatory-radar-n1046771q13fox.com/2019/09/16/a-statewide-outbreak-two-new-cases-of-lung-disease-linked-to-vaping-in-washington/www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-08-09/wisconsin-officials-12-cases-of-severe-lung-disease-after-vapingAugust 2019 - Jan 2020, the US CDC reported that the US is gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons ever, with 12000 deaths. On 12 March 2020, the CDC director admitted that some COVID-19 deaths were misdiagnosed as the flu because COVID-19 were found when they did posthumous tests. www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-season-2020-what-to-knowOctober 18 - 27, 2019, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Wuhan. The US sent a contingent of 350 athletes. They did not win any medals. The athletes toured Wuhan. November 2019, the Chinese press reported that five athletes who had suffered from infectious disease had been discharged from hospital. mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNrMYNics3XIDUZpwGYKNsN9AyAB6J282ml3BvPxrnAiaXTdQuvu5kEatQ/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNmicvyn5wozaksjicInYAGlcduHHwyHrJtzIEuZnRvmKB2T83pEibZVNcg/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1November 2019, Wuhan locals were detected with COVID-19, with a spike of such terms in local social media. This coincided with the post-incubation period after the Military World Games. www.businessinsider.sg/coronavirus-patients-zero-contracted-case-november-2020-3?r=US&IR=TDecember 1, 2019, the first confirmed case of COVID-19 was detected in Wuhan. Subsequently more than 80000 people will be infected. Of the first 41 cases, 34% were not related to the wildlife market. www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltextDaniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, claimed that because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing, and the presence of infected people with no links to wildlife market, the virus could not have originated from the wildlife market. Kristian Andersen, an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute, agreed with the assessment. www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globallyGenotype assay of COVID-19 revealed 5 variants/strains (group ABCDE) of the virus. Most regions in the world have 1-2 COVID-19 variants including Hubei (mainly group C), and UK (Group 😎. US is the only country with all 5 variants (Group ABCDE). In Virology 101, the region with the most variants is the origin of the disease. mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbN8unCYVZIE7wMduKBDFgfy2cmbTxn0yj32eRTf77WzjfKaqk52FAd4w/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB5zssIBQ0x144B7DJ7kB43ho1MKUbNJxp8mz3Wep5HqRXqic4X2KxMoPI7FJfWsLib6EJpicJjTkicxqeKnrHkDw/640?wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=125 Jan, 2020, Japanese couple went for a 10 days vacation in Hawaii. On the second week they fell ill. On return to Japan they were tested and confirmed to have COVID-19. www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/coronavirus-hawaii-japan.htmlItaly lab confirmed that the strain of COVID-19 is different from the one circulating in China, and that the circulation of the virus is not so recent, and had been spreading undetected for weeks. www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detectedChina's coronavirus expert Dr Zhong Nanshan, the discoverer of SARS, said that although COVID-19 was detected in China, it doesn't necessary mean that it originated from China. As of March 12, 2020, the US had only tested 10000 people, and COVID-19 was confirmed in 1600 of them. As a comparison South Korea tests 10000 people a day, but the disease rate trajectory is the same as the US. This suggests that there is a great number of infected people in the US, just that they were not tested. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21178289/confirmed-coronavirus-cases-us-countries-italy-iran-singapore-hong-kongYou didn't try very hard to find the medal table, it's on Wikipedia... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games#Medal_tableFor the record, USA won 8 medals (more than they got in South Korea, at the previous military games). You previously mentioned that it was an "unsettling coincidence" that the USA competed in the Military Games. I'm not sure what exactly the coincidence is here? The fact that they were in Wuhan? More than 100 other countries' military personnel also participated.
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Post by pappasmurf on Mar 19, 2020 8:24:35 GMT
You should all lobby your MP to press the government to make anti malaria drugs available to end this madness. It's virtually 100% effective against the Coronavirus. Because it is generic and cheap and cannot be patented big Pharma will lobby against its widespread use as a cure.
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Post by Rico on Mar 19, 2020 8:52:23 GMT
You should all lobby your MP to press the government to make anti malaria drugs available to end this madness. It's virtually 100% effective against the Coronavirus. Because it is generic and cheap and cannot be patented big Pharma will lobby against its widespread use as a cure. Interesting. Sounds very promising. A quick google suggests that initial tests show it is very effective (as it was against the closely related SARS - but maybe not quite 100%) and a big pharma company in the US (Bayer) is going to donate their supply for free over there. Clinical trials have already started in China and numerous countries including the UK have them planned.
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Post by Rico on Mar 19, 2020 9:07:33 GMT
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Post by pappasmurf on Mar 19, 2020 9:09:31 GMT
I wouldn't wait for clinical trials if I was an at risk individual showing signs of illness. A visit to Lloyds Pharmacy and purchase Chloroquine over the counter. Anti Malaria pills are safe and cheap.
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Post by neilmc4 on Mar 19, 2020 19:44:14 GMT
When we first heard about coronavirus we were told to sneeze and cough into the crook of our arm. Millions of people then rushed out to stockpile mountains of bog roll. Proof that 95% of the population don't know their arse from their elbow.
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