Harris back to Millwall

[zx10racer22]

Feb 21, 2024 13:43:54 GMT fatherjhackett said:

Dunk as player-accountant. 

This genuinely made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that.

[moosehacker]

Hopefully new manager bounce by the time we play Northampton!

[foolhandy]

I was meh when he was appointed, meh watching his football, and I'm meh now he's going.

Looking forward to not feeling like a teenager again soon!

[Mark Peters’ Bonce of Power]

Utter madness but also bollocks to him, we need to move on fast and move on well. Get Strang on the phone to Micheal Duff immediately.

[El Goodo]

Presuming this does happen, in the mid-term I don't think this is a bad thing in the slightest. He came in to be a steady hand & that's what he was. If he goes, it's with us in a marginally better position than when he came in terms of the league, & a better position in terms of performances, form & the squad.

What we needed in the mid to long term hasn't changed – we'll still need another rebuild in the summer (true even if Bonner were still here) & we'll still need to consolidate at this level. Harris is absolutely not the only manager who would be capable of achieving that.

Only worry is the effect it has in the short term, primarily on the players – don't think any fans would be hugely bothered (and god knows it's not going to negatively affect the atmosphere at home games). Most of the players have already lost the manager that signed them anyway (although spare a thought for Bonne, who has now seemingly twice signed for Harris with an explicit statement of wanting to work with him & will have ended up doing so for a grand total of about 15 games), and who most of whom are out of contract next season.

The squad's good enough to stay up and should do so. But after a topsy-turvy 4 months, they'll be craving some stability. I think there's a fairly strong argument to be made that, as long as the first 4 or 5 games aren't a disaster (and seeing as who we're playing & the state of our forward line, that ought to be judged on performances rather than results) Corr and Betsy would be a reasonable interim appointment, but not necessarily the preferred option.

It's just very hard to say without knowing who might apply. We remain a very attractive proposition for a manger in a lot of ways.

[danboyb]

Feb 21, 2024 13:47:28 GMT zx10racer22 said:

Feb 21, 2024 13:28:53 GMT danboyb said:

Was a little bit more than a “bad run of form” Is many reasons why he was sacked and nothing in the few months in between now and then make that the wrong decision. I wish him well, but I don’t want to see him back in charge of this club for a long while. Luckily I think Paul and the board have more sense than to do such a rapid u turn.

How else would you describe it but a poor run of form?

At the start of October, we were higher in the league than we have finished in the last 30 years. We then won one game in two months and by the end of November, he was gone.

Lets not pretend we were some kind of crisis club over the last 2 seasons of his tenure. League One is hard and he got us there, kept us there, and even when he left, we weren't in the drop zone.

Yes, the form was poor, the last three games particularly, and it was right for him to go when he did. But the way some fans bang on, you'd think we've been fighting to get in the Championship for years and that finishing bottom half in this division whilst avoiding the drop is failure.

We hadn’t scored 2 in a game for god knows how long, hadn’t come back from behind for even longer, had just been totally embarrassed by our local rivals, his post match comments were becoming more and more defeatist, is many other things I could bring up but it serves no purpose. We have improved since he left, that’s fact. I’m not disputing he done a good job overall, but the last 18 months of his tenure were painful to watch and it was getting worse. Of course we’ve had more troublesome times over the years, but in the here and now we were in disarray when he left.

Not quite sure where you’re going with this. You seem to state that you don’t think he’s the right man for the job, yet are disagreeing with me when I’m stating reasons as to why he was sacked and why he should not be reappointed.

[El Goodo]

Feb 21, 2024 13:47:28 GMT zx10racer22 said:

How else would you describe it but a poor run of form?

Come on pal, you know full well Bonner wasn't sacked for the run of form from October. He was sacked for the run of form from October off the back of a run of form the previous year that lasted for two-thirds of the season.

[zx10racer22]

Feb 21, 2024 13:55:59 GMT danboyb said:

Feb 21, 2024 13:47:28 GMT zx10racer22 said:

We hadn’t scored 2 in a game for god knows how long, hadn’t come back from behind for even longer, had just been totally embarrassed by our local rivals, his post match comments were becoming more and more defeatist, is many other things I could bring up but it serves no purpose. We have improved since he left, that’s fact. I’m not disputing he done a good job overall, but the last 18 months of his tenure were painful to watch and it was getting worse. Of course we’ve had more troublesome times over the years, but in the here and now we were in disarray when he left.

Not quite sure where you’re going with this. You seem to state that you don’t think he’s the right man for the job, yet are disagreeing with me when I’m stating reasons as to why he was sacked and why he should not be reappointed.

Where I am going with it is that the idea of his reappointment does not deserve to be ridiculed and the man himself is undeserving of the contempt your posts towards him display.


I agree in all seriousness that he is not right for us at this moment in time.


But overall, did he do a good job across his time with us? Did he create memories that will last a lifetime? Did he leave the club in a far better position that he found it? Yes to all. So the suggestion he might be reappointed now he's had a break isn't crazy.

[Berlin U]

It looked like he was suppressing a smile in his interview after the game last night. Thought this at the time. This now makes sense.

[malotru]

Kin ell! Not been on here since early this morning and now after some DIY and dealing with my kids on half term I come on here to have another moan about Lankester’s shooting ability and us only managing to beat 2 teams that were above us this season and now this!!!
If he goes, he goes. Had warmed to him recently but won’t shed any tears that he’s going.

Just a bit mental really!

[Badger]

Feb 21, 2024 13:49:11 GMT zx10racer22 said:

Feb 21, 2024 13:43:54 GMT fatherjhackett said:

Dunk as player-accountant. 

This genuinely made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that.

Great idea except he is training to be a lawyer! Player/club legal representative is more appropriate

[cambsno]

I dont get the anger aimed at Harris.

For 99/9% of footballers and managers its a job, occasionally you get the Tony Adams, John Terrys, Mark Bonners who live and bleed the club but thats rare.

Anyone here would go to a better company paying more money with better resource, even more if you were a legend at that company. He didnt seek out this or do the dirty, circumstances changed. In theory Lincoln could decide they want Cowley's back and if offered I am sure they would go.

Good luck Neil, I was Bonner IN but you did what we needed.

[El Goodo]

Is anyone angry at him? I think some people are (understandably) angry or perhaps more exasperated at the circumstances but largely ambivalent or understanding towards Harris himself.

[artvandelay]

Feb 21, 2024 14:09:33 GMT malotru said:

Kin ell! Not been on here since early this morning and now after some DIY and dealing with my kids on half term I come on here to have another moan about Lankester’s shooting ability and us only managing to beat 2 teams that were above us this season and now this!!!
If he goes, he goes. Had warmed to him recently but won’t shed any tears that he’s going.

Just a bit mental really!

Certainly came out of nowhere. I'm still making my way back from Carlisle and thinking Lyle Taylor might have derailed the season. Barry Corr could be earning his money over the next ten days!

[danboyb]

Feb 21, 2024 14:03:16 GMT zx10racer22 said:

Feb 21, 2024 13:55:59 GMT danboyb said:

We hadn’t scored 2 in a game for god knows how long, hadn’t come back from behind for even longer, had just been totally embarrassed by our local rivals, his post match comments were becoming more and more defeatist, is many other things I could bring up but it serves no purpose. We have improved since he left, that’s fact. I’m not disputing he done a good job overall, but the last 18 months of his tenure were painful to watch and it was getting worse. Of course we’ve had more troublesome times over the years, but in the here and now we were in disarray when he left.

Not quite sure where you’re going with this. You seem to state that you don’t think he’s the right man for the job, yet are disagreeing with me when I’m stating reasons as to why he was sacked and why he should not be reappointed.

Where I am going with it is that the idea of his reappointment does not deserve to be ridiculed and the man himself is undeserving of the contempt your posts towards him display.


I agree in all seriousness that he is not right for us at this moment in time.


But overall, did he do a good job across his time with us? Did he create memories that will last a lifetime? Did he leave the club in a far better position that he found it? Yes to all. So the suggestion he might be reappointed now he's had a break isn't crazy.

Contempt? Ok mate. I would call it stating facts. You’re contradicting yourself. You don’t think he should be reappointed, yet now he’s had a break it isn’t crazy? I would say that sacking him after 18 months of largely terrible performances and results then reappointing him literally months later is crazy. If I’m in contempt of message board then I’ll take my punishment.