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Post by funkymonk on Jun 21, 2024 14:26:13 GMT
No issue with Trippier, but my god what a difference a fit Luke Shaw would make.
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Post by imp566 on Jun 21, 2024 19:45:22 GMT
No issue with Trippier, but my god what a difference a fit Luke Shaw would make. We're unlikely to see that though; even if he is considered fit enough to play in the knockout rounds, he won't have played a match for a long while, so will be far from match fit.
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Post by texaspete on Jun 21, 2024 21:00:48 GMT
Netherlands getting done over by poor refereeing by English officials after “scoring” exactly the same goal we did away to MK Dons the season before last (took me a while to remember, tried hard to forget that game..)
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Post by malotru on Jun 21, 2024 21:10:01 GMT
The VAR ref was Stuart Attwell. The same Stuart Attwell who have that infamous ghost goal in a Watford Reading game back in the late 00’s.
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Post by milesfenton on Jun 21, 2024 21:17:18 GMT
Netherlands getting done over by poor refereeing by English officials after “scoring” exactly the same goal we did away to MK Dons the season before last (took me a while to remember, tried hard to forget that game..) Not exactly the same. The Netherlands player was between the keeper and the ball, Smith wasn't. Correct decision by the referee/linesman, only complaint is how long VAR took to confirm it.
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Post by simon on Jun 22, 2024 6:32:23 GMT
Netherlands getting done over by poor refereeing by English officials after “scoring” exactly the same goal we did away to MK Dons the season before last (took me a while to remember, tried hard to forget that game..) Not exactly the same. The Netherlands player was between the keeper and the ball, Smith wasn't. Correct decision by the referee/linesman, only complaint is how long VAR took to confirm it. Wrong decision! Look at the positioning of the keeper’s legs, he’s not ready to dive and the ball is in the net before he could react, regardless of the position of the Dutch player. Absolutely no need to rule that out and appalling officiating from the English gang. At the very least the ref should be sent to the monitor for another look.
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Post by dilbert2402 on Jun 22, 2024 6:52:06 GMT
Only a ref that has become used to the English way of using VAR would take so long to make the wrong decision. Far from being obstructed in any way the keeper just didn’t see the ball quickly enough because his own teammates were in the way.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jun 22, 2024 9:27:10 GMT
I'm not really too bothered whether it's right or wrong as I think either decision would have been pretty reasonable.
It really shouldn't have taken 3 minutes to reach a decision though...and I wouldn't even care about that if it wasn't English refs making a mockery of VAR. Again. VAR being sh*t has been shown to be very much an English problem at this tournament, eh?
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Post by duxfordbob on Jun 22, 2024 10:41:24 GMT
V A R decision correct. Keeper could not move towards the shot because the forward was stood in his way. Why did that take so long to confirm.
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Post by imp566 on Jun 22, 2024 11:16:07 GMT
VAR decision wrong - the goalkeeper didn't even see the shot or where the ball was going because he was blocked by his own defender, the Dutch player was actually behind the position of the GK so if he had wanted, he could have dived.
Its such a subjective decision though. Obviously the French thought it shouldn't be a goal and the Dutch thought it was fair. I guarantee, if the roles were reveres, so would the opinions of the managers. As a neutral, I think it should have stood.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jun 22, 2024 11:25:50 GMT
It's funny though because it annoyed Koeman.
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Post by artvandelay on Jun 22, 2024 11:35:23 GMT
How can you stand in the six yard box and not be offside? It was the correct decision, it should have taken two seconds.
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Post by imp566 on Jun 22, 2024 12:02:37 GMT
How can you stand in the six yard box and not be offside? It was the correct decision, it should have taken two seconds. Because the law now says it is only offside if it is hindering the GK. The argument is that he wasn't. Which is subjective.
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Post by duxfordbob on Jun 22, 2024 12:15:45 GMT
The forward is stood a yard from the keeper on the side the shot went in. Did he interfere with the keeper getting to the ball?obviously ! The fact that the shot may have beaten him any way is not material. I would be howling if that.was scored against the U,s.
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Post by safe standing on Jun 22, 2024 13:09:28 GMT
The Austrian penalty against Poland yesterday was an absolute travesty. The Austrian player leaves his foot in looking for contact and trips over the Polish keepers face. Surely an incident like this is what VAR exists for. Not even referred...
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