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Post by amberandy22 on Jun 25, 2024 20:02:02 GMT
Why are we so afraid of Slovenia? Just move the ball quicker there’s acres of space in behind if we do.
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Post by mike_CUFC on Jun 25, 2024 20:36:44 GMT
Palmer’s done more in 10 minutes than most others already!
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Post by amberandy22 on Jun 25, 2024 20:48:15 GMT
What’s the point of putting Gordon on in the 89th minute? Clueless Southgate.
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Post by mike_CUFC on Jun 25, 2024 20:49:29 GMT
Wonder what today’s excuse will be for our slow build up play and lack of pressing?
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Post by Amba Gambla on Jun 25, 2024 20:53:30 GMT
Wonder what today’s excuse will be for our slow build up play and lack of pressing? Temazepam
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Post by imp566 on Jun 25, 2024 21:01:33 GMT
Wonder what today’s excuse will be for our slow build up play and lack of pressing? Apparently we played much better today, the gospel according to skipper Kane! I don't recall either goalkepper being overly busy!
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Post by Brophypants on Jun 25, 2024 21:03:25 GMT
Tough games though innit?
Kane is wrong. It wasn't the final ball or the final pass or the final shot that cost us. It was the fact that until Palmer and Gordon came on there was never once more than one England player making a fucking run. No one pulling anyone out of position. No one running in behind. No one giving an option that wasn't static to feet.
It's painfully one-dimensional and easy to defend against, and relies on a moment of magic rather than consistent good play to score goals.
If they honestly don't see that, and Southgate still has them just shooting a bit better and passing a bit better in training then he's a mug and a charlatan because these players can all do that already.
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Post by shubs on Jun 25, 2024 21:09:35 GMT
Finished repainting the kitchen this afternoon and was thinking about watching it dry with a couple of beers. Sadly I opted to go through to the sitting room to watch the game.
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Post by danboyb on Jun 25, 2024 21:17:17 GMT
One fantastic move that involved 3 subs and ended with a poor effort was the highlight of another poor performance. I’m only hoping Southgate has been keeping the likes of Palmer and Gordon under wraps ready to unleash them in the Knockout round. Although a few more minutes for Gordon tonight wouldn’t have hurt.
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Post by imp566 on Jun 25, 2024 21:18:23 GMT
'It's a strange environment we are playing in' WTF does that mean Southgate?
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Post by malotru on Jun 25, 2024 21:26:51 GMT
Group C = Group of Cr.ap. 6 Matches 1 victory 5 draws No one scores more than 1 goal Group winners score 2 goals in 3 games. 2 goalless draws to end the group stage.
Zzzzzzzzz…..
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Post by champair79 on Jun 25, 2024 21:51:48 GMT
Shocking. This was the game to be radical and change things up. We’d qualified and with the 5 sub rule, if it started backfiring, Southgate could put his favourites back on.
Foden played well actually but he’s always coming inside and really wants to play where Bellingham is. I’d have rested Bellingham, put Foden down the middle and told him to show England fans what he can do. Once again, we had no width especially down the left and everything was being played slowly through the middle with Kane dropping deep. Slovenia just had 2 banks of 4 and defended it relatively easily.
We have young, skilful, hungry players on the bench that can run at teams. Why are we constantly playing it sideways and backwards and just ambling about? It’s turgid and infuriating! Mix it up a bit and use the width.
Once he did make the subs, we looked slightly better but putting Gordon on with 5 mins to go didn’t give him time to do much.
I thought bar one slightly hairy moment, Guehi looked composed albeit against a limited attack. He’s done well after being parachuted in following Maguire’s injury.
I watched the Dutch vs Austria game earlier. Austria are everything England aren’t. Most of them aren’t world-beaters but they’re a cohesive unit, press and attack as a team and everyone is 100% clear on their role. Rangnick has also rotated the squad brilliantly so that nearly all of them have had game time already so they’re fresh and ready to go in the knockout rounds. That’s what a good manager looks like. Southgate seems scared of his own shadow.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jun 26, 2024 0:40:17 GMT
That was a hard and frustrating game to watch again. Miles better than the Denmark game but it's all relative eh? It's not a performance we should be happy to accept.
Better in the second half, I thought we controlled the half almost entirely and had moments where we pinned them 30 yards or so from goal and upped the tempo...it felt like a goal was coming at times but in truth we didn't really look like scoring.
I hope the game is more about what we can learn from it - it felt that way at least with a half each for Mainoo and Gallagher. It felt that way with giving both Cole and Gordon minutes too (literally just minutes but both made an impression) and it looked that way when we swapped Walker to left back and put Trent-Arnolds on the right (a move I suggested at half time because I think if you've got electric pace then a lack of a left foot is less glaring. I'd put Trippy in at right back ahead of Arnold-Alexander though I think...no real complaints whichever of the three go there though really)
Anyway. We've qualified for the round of knockouts, I'll take it and keep hoping we get better.
Andrew
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Post by lionel on Jun 26, 2024 0:48:12 GMT
So, every member of the squad has been picked for a reason and are good enough to play.
Therefore, pick the players who can work the tactics the best. We are really slow and predictable in the build up and have no clue how to score the 'routine/ ugly' goals.
For me, we are trying to shoe-horn three players who want to play the '10' role in a system that only requires one '10'.
Harry is still the '9' if he is able to play the role without dropping back. If he can't then he to contact GB news. The Palmer and Gordon must start as they are breaking the defensive line and attacking with pace and threat.
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Post by funkymonk on Jun 26, 2024 2:13:02 GMT
I'm not being funny, but play the highlights to our tournament so far to a soundtrack of vuvuzelas and you're getting the vibe.
We've managed to win the group but slip from 2nd favourites to 5th or 6th favourite, and that tells you a lot.
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