Bendigeidfran
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Post by Bendigeidfran on Jun 26, 2024 6:12:37 GMT
I'm not being funny, but play the highlights to our tournament so far to a soundtrack of vuvuzelas and you're getting the vibe. We've managed to win the group but slip from 2nd favourites to 5th or 6th favourite, and that tells you a lot. Actually, bizarrely, you're somehow favourites for the tournament. Presumably that's on bets places rather than bookies predictions
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Post by funkymonk on Jun 26, 2024 10:09:25 GMT
I'm not being funny, but play the highlights to our tournament so far to a soundtrack of vuvuzelas and you're getting the vibe. We've managed to win the group but slip from 2nd favourites to 5th or 6th favourite, and that tells you a lot. Actually, bizarrely, you're somehow favourites for the tournament. Presumably that's on bets places rather than bookies predictions Yeah we were favourites/2nd favourites going into it with the bookies, whether that's just it being an English facing market, I'm not sure. But in reality, based on the tournament so far I'd rank it as: Spain, Portugal, Germany, France, Austria and then us and Italy can fight amongst ourselves like baldies with a comb. Anyway, Czech win tonight and we don't have to play the Dutch. I think. These permutations hurt.
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champair79
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Post by champair79 on Jun 26, 2024 10:53:18 GMT
I think Spain or Germany have got to be favourites. France have lots of quality but haven’t fired (a bit like England really). I’d absolutely love it if Austria went all the way. They are a far more technically gifted team than the Euro 2004 Greek side but play with the same spirit and are coached brilliantly. You can see what a great coach Rangnick is and what a basket case Man Utd were (and still are).
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pgtips (lurid)
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Post by pgtips (lurid) on Jun 26, 2024 11:32:55 GMT
As discussed up thread, the failure to ignite might be a deliberate delay for pacing purposes.
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Post by cufctheparrot on Jun 26, 2024 12:31:40 GMT
Actually, bizarrely, you're somehow favourites for the tournament. Presumably that's on bets places rather than bookies predictions Yeah we were favourites/2nd favourites going into it with the bookies, whether that's just it being an English facing market, I'm not sure. But in reality, based on the tournament so far I'd rank it as: Spain, Portugal, Germany, France, Austria and then us and Italy can fight amongst ourselves like baldies with a comb. Anyway, Czech win tonight and we don't have to play the Dutch. I think. These permutations hurt. That’s only if the Czech win by only 1 or 2 goals against Turkey, if they win by more or lose or draw its back to playing the Netherlands, alternatively Georgia could beat Portugal and we avoid Netherlands. Either way it’s the Netherlands or the Third team in group E.
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Jun 26, 2024 13:48:17 GMT
I'm desperately trying to make sense of what Southgate is trying to do with this undeniably talented England squad. The conclusion I think I'm coming to is that he's modelling us on those 'great' Italy teams of the 70s and 80s where the most important aspect was not to concede and then rely on a moment of luck or skill to grab a goal and secure victory. Aside from that one moment of individual Danish brilliance, I really don't think we've looked like conceding over the three group games. The last 2 tournament outcomes (particularly the Euros final in 2021) seemed to have scarred him.
I'm not trying to defend him...just trying to cheer myself up a bit!
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Wingco's Boy
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Post by Wingco's Boy on Jun 26, 2024 13:54:58 GMT
I'm desperately trying to make sense of what Southgate is trying to do with this undeniably talented England squad. The conclusion I think I'm coming to is that he's modelling us on those 'great' Italy teams of the 70s and 80s where the most important aspect was not to concede and then rely on a moment of luck or skill to grab a goal and secure victory. Aside from that one moment of individual Danish brilliance, I really don't think we've looked like conceding over the three group games. The last 2 tournament outcomes (particularly the Euros final in 2021) seemed to have scarred him. I'm not trying to defend him...just trying to cheer myself up a bit! You have a new rival in flouncingbellinghamboy.
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Post by saltyvinegar on Jun 26, 2024 13:55:48 GMT
In my mind, the only reason we've only conceded one long range goal is the quality of opposition rather than the actual quality of our defence. The number of times we have conceded cheap possession by passing to the opposition in dangerous areas is frightening & it seems to have spread amongst quite a few players. If we continue to do that in the knockout stages then we'll be back home very soon. The only positive scenario I'm clinging on to is the hope that playing a better & more attacking side will bring the best out of us
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Jun 26, 2024 14:04:01 GMT
I'm desperately trying to make sense of what Southgate is trying to do with this undeniably talented England squad. The conclusion I think I'm coming to is that he's modelling us on those 'great' Italy teams of the 70s and 80s where the most important aspect was not to concede and then rely on a moment of luck or skill to grab a goal and secure victory. Aside from that one moment of individual Danish brilliance, I really don't think we've looked like conceding over the three group games. The last 2 tournament outcomes (particularly the Euros final in 2021) seemed to have scarred him. I'm not trying to defend him...just trying to cheer myself up a bit! You have a new rival in flouncingbellinghamboy. He he, he was certainly doing far more flouncing than footballing!
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danielcufc
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Post by danielcufc on Jun 26, 2024 14:55:50 GMT
Foden coming home from England Squad for temporary period due to urgent family matter
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Post by funkymonk on Jun 26, 2024 15:08:56 GMT
Makes it sound so dramatic, and given what his mum is like, bit of a shitty headline!
He's going back for the birth of his 3rd child and will be back with the squad for Sunday.
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Post by imp566 on Jun 26, 2024 15:38:50 GMT
Makes it sound so dramatic, and given what his mum is like, bit of a shitty headline! He's going back for the birth of his 3rd child and will be back with the squad for Sunday. 3rd child? Christ on a bike, he's been busy!
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danboyb
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Post by danboyb on Jun 26, 2024 15:45:29 GMT
Certainly finding the back of the net at home anyway!
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Post by Andrewlang on Jun 26, 2024 16:38:32 GMT
Belgiums Hergé inspired kit is wonderfully tin(tin) pot.
Andrew
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Post by funkymonk on Jun 26, 2024 16:51:04 GMT
Makes it sound so dramatic, and given what his mum is like, bit of a shitty headline! He's going back for the birth of his 3rd child and will be back with the squad for Sunday. 3rd child? Christ on a bike, he's been busy! First one was at 16 or 17 I think. Stockport lad though, ent he... And good in tight spaces.
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