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Post by MartinL on Jul 1, 2024 21:20:18 GMT
Ronaldo’s tears - a beautiful sight!
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Post by foolhandy on Jul 1, 2024 21:37:39 GMT
IT'S NOT FUNNY! 😁
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 1, 2024 21:54:06 GMT
Settles the Ronaldo v Messi debate once and for all. Messi has never missed a penalty at the euros.
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Post by simon on Jul 1, 2024 22:11:05 GMT
If we're talking subs I'm going to almost compliment Sir Gareth for bringing on Konsa for the second half of extra time. If he's going to be the guy to come in for Guéhi then it's sensible to give him 15 minutes so that's he's not match cold, while also resting a knackered looking Bellingham. Maybe, anyway. Either that or it's typical Southgate taking off his attacking players to defend a one goal lead against Slovakia. Grumble grumble. Andrew Konsa had never played a minute at left back in his professional career. It was a ludicrous decision. Shaw was on the bench and apparently fit to come on. Joe Gomez played a lot of the season at left back for Liverpool and was one of their best players. Saka started at arsenal as a left back and is left footed. Southgate would rightly have got pelters if we’d gone out and no doubt lost his job. To praise him just because we didn’t is somewhat bizarre. He was a like a startled rabbit last night and got away with his poor decisions thanks to, the Slovak shot from the half way line going just wide, a very generous 6 mins of stoppage time, and the first shot on target by Bellingham
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Post by Exiled on Jul 2, 2024 3:31:04 GMT
If we're talking subs I'm going to almost compliment Sir Gareth for bringing on Konsa for the second half of extra time. If he's going to be the guy to come in for Guéhi then it's sensible to give him 15 minutes so that's he's not match cold, while also resting a knackered looking Bellingham. Maybe, anyway. Either that or it's typical Southgate taking off his attacking players to defend a one goal lead against Slovakia. Grumble grumble. Andrew Konsa had never played a minute at left back in his professional career. It was a ludicrous decision. Shaw was on the bench and apparently fit to come on. Joe Gomez played a lot of the season at left back for Liverpool and was one of their best players. Saka started at arsenal as a left back and is left footed. Southgate would rightly have got pelters if we’d gone out and no doubt lost his job. To praise him just because we didn’t is somewhat bizarre. He was a like a startled rabbit last night and got away with his poor decisions thanks to, the Slovak shot from the half way line going just wide, a very generous 6 mins of stoppage time, and the first shot on target by Bellingham It was like - every 5 minutes a different left back. Every time I went out of the room and came back, there was a new person there 1st Trippier 2nd Saka 3rd Eze 4th Konsa extreme dithering Saved only thanks to a miracle from St Jude.
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Post by malotru on Jul 2, 2024 7:18:38 GMT
For a team who are serious contenders for the Euros to allow a 39 year old who was last considered still good about 5 years ago (being generous) and currently plays in Saudi to dominate his teams set pieces etc is ridiculous. He is awful at free kicks and lives off the reputation of that free kick he scored for Utd against Portsmouth yonks ago. One he took last night from way out wide which any other player would have put a cross in but he decided to shoot and went miles wide was embarrassing. Bruno Fernandes is possibly Europes best man from the penalty spot but it has to be Ronaldo.
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Post by imp566 on Jul 2, 2024 8:18:16 GMT
Ronaldo's career has been littered with 'Me, Me, Me' moments. He has to be bigger than the team.
Look at his emotions at the final whistle yesterday, what sort of an example does that show to his team mates? He needed to be pulled to one side and told to man the flip up. That's not leadership!
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Post by madmarvin on Jul 2, 2024 9:15:38 GMT
Ronaldo's tears were all for himself not the team. Wonderful footballer but a complete narcissist.
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Post by cambsno on Jul 2, 2024 9:42:42 GMT
For a team who are serious contenders for the Euros to allow a 39 year old who was last considered still good about 5 years ago (being generous) and currently plays in Saudi to dominate his teams set pieces etc is ridiculous. He is awful at free kicks and lives off the reputation of that free kick he scored for Utd against Portsmouth yonks ago. One he took last night from way out wide which any other player would have put a cross in but he decided to shoot and went miles wide was embarrassing. Bruno Fernandes is possibly Europes best man from the penalty spot but it has to be Ronaldo. His penalty which was saved was a very good one, but it was a outstanding save. I think people are being a bit harsh - men are allowed emotion, even if they are one of the greatest players in the world and "should know better". He could have won the tie in his last Euros, that is emotion. Should he have been like he was, probably not but he got on with it and scored a good one in the shootout.
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Jul 2, 2024 9:47:02 GMT
What that game, and the France/Belgium match, said last night was that, Spain aside, pretty much most of the supposed 'favourites' have been bang average to poor in the tournament so far. France still to score from open play. Portugal needing a shoot out to get past Slovenia (having been bummed by Georgia). Italy out. Germany allegedly playing well, but yet to face anyone really all that good. Belgium out (again).
The problem is, I struggle to see England pulling themselves together to give it a real good go. They seem to be wallowing in the pressure, and sniping at outsiders, rather than focussing on improving their play. The collective wank-a-thon on Bellingham for scoring (admittedly a good finish), and his over-blown reaction, despite being rank average/poor for the majority of that match and the previous two is embarrassing and sums up an arrogant mindset that isn't being backed up by effort/performance at the minute.
You never know though, maybe that's the spark. Combined with Trippier's injury. Christ they need something. Straws definitely being clutched.
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Jul 2, 2024 9:50:08 GMT
For a team who are serious contenders for the Euros to allow a 39 year old who was last considered still good about 5 years ago (being generous) and currently plays in Saudi to dominate his teams set pieces etc is ridiculous. He is awful at free kicks and lives off the reputation of that free kick he scored for Utd against Portsmouth yonks ago. One he took last night from way out wide which any other player would have put a cross in but he decided to shoot and went miles wide was embarrassing. Bruno Fernandes is possibly Europes best man from the penalty spot but it has to be Ronaldo. His penalty which was saved was a very good one, but it was a outstanding save. I think people are being a bit harsh - men are allowed emotion, even if they are one of the greatest players in the world and "should know better". He could have won the tie in his last Euros, that is emotion. Should he have been like he was, probably not but he got on with it and scored a good one in the shootout. It's not that he's not allowed emotion. The issue is that it's always about him rather than the team. He was wallowing in self-pity, much like he has all tournament for not scoring. And not really helping dig his team out of it, because of that selfishness.
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Post by Bendigeidfran on Jul 2, 2024 9:54:22 GMT
Eh, I felt for him a bit. Maybe made it about him but I think the weight of his age is affecting him. He's obviously aware it's probably his last major tournament, and was desperate to get through to the next round. He is narcissistic, but he's earned that right over the years I think. I also felt for Pepe. He was out on his feet by extra time and that desperate run after his cock up was agonising.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 2, 2024 10:09:01 GMT
I don't mind the sniping if it creates a them against us type mentality...which I'm not sure it has just yet and isn't entirely ideal when the 'them' is us and the 'us' is them either but even so my hope is real. To win a tournament they need to be supportive of each other so I quite liked hearing Rice say "we'll do anything to protect this manager and each other" - I found that a bit chest thumping tbh, 'protect' is an interesting word to use I thought.
One of the things Southgate did so so well in the first 6-7 years was created a relaxed, fun, supportive togetherness, the squad felt like a good bunch of guys and the fans felt valued and included. In truth it's a shame if that's all gone in favour of "giving a little back" as Bellingham said, but it's an understandable reaction I suppose. An honest one at least. Whatever motivates them I suppose. It's not going to do anyone any favours when we go out though (if).
Must admit I do half enjoy the players keep reminding some of our critical serial failures from years and years ago that 'actually you failed too. You should know this rubbish isn't easy'. Is it constructive...? probably not. Is it funny...? yes.
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Post by malotru on Jul 2, 2024 10:12:52 GMT
I’m fine with all the emotion shown etc, what grinds my gears is he is clearly Portugal’s unofficial manager and he is holding the team back. Fernandes is a brilliant player and if Roberto Martínez had the balls to give BF set piece responsibility, Portugal would be a better team. Roberto Martínez is a terrific human being but his appointment just seems to be a nice front man to bend over to the wishes of an aging superstar whose best years are way back over the horizon.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 2, 2024 10:14:00 GMT
"Eh, I felt for him a bit. Maybe made it about him but I think the weight of his age is affecting him. He's obviously aware it's probably his last major tournament, and was desperate to get through to the next round. He is narcissistic, but he's earned that right over the years I think"
Yeah, I didn't feel for him but it must be hard not to be narcissistic or f*cked up in some way when you're legitimately one of the greatest footballers of all time and have had people fawning over you for the last 25 years. I think that'd go to my head a bit too.
I don't know much about anything else but I do like the point above that 'men are allowed to show emotion' so I'll leave it there without further question.
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