onlyluke92
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Favourite CUFC match: U's 3 vs 0 Stevenage (Conf Play Off Semi, 2nd leg, 2009
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Post by onlyluke92 on Jul 11, 2024 10:09:40 GMT
Which also should never be given as a handball offence, it comes up off of his body and onto his hand. What was he meant to do? Initially, he then moved his hand out to control it. It's instinctive but is deliberate handball. At the end of the day it was given and we take it and move forward. 100% wasn't a penalty but Maradona did handball it, Lampard's shot did cross the line and the French constantly fouled us in 2022 (there's more). Couldn't care less, lets go England!
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Post by funkymonk on Jul 11, 2024 10:25:22 GMT
Do think it's pretty funny that Kane will win the Golden Boot if he scores in the final and Olmo doesn't. Also pretty funny if neither score and Olmo wins it with.... 3 goals (+ 2 assists). Yeah, well Own Goal was robbed by Olmo and deserves the golden boot. It's all set up for Kane scoring, but Spain winning, and another one of those very sad looking football as art posts.
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Post by El Goodo on Jul 11, 2024 10:44:43 GMT
Just thinking... has any team equaled or bettered our run of tournament stages of semis, final, quarters, final over the past 4 tournaments? Argentina I think must be the only ones?
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Post by funkymonk on Jul 11, 2024 10:49:09 GMT
Guess it depends if you'd count France as bettering it. Round of 16 elimination against, but world cup win and final probably counts for.
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 11, 2024 10:51:00 GMT
Maybe you'd take Spain in the last 16 of the world cup in 2006 Winning the 2008 euros, the 2010 world cup and the 2012 euros..
Went out in the group stage of 2014 world cup though I think.
It ha been a pretty remarkable spell for Sir Gareth though.
Andrew
Edit - oh, over the past four tournaments. Yeah, maybe France then.
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Post by cufctheparrot on Jul 11, 2024 11:22:12 GMT
Outside of the penalty area, that challenge is a foul in every match you watch. The challenge was late (he didn't get the ball) and studs first. Where it is on the pitch has no bearing to the outcome. I cringed when I heard Gary Neville say that he believes there should be more allowance given to that sort of tackle in the penalty area! A true defender talking! Nevilles just trying to wind up the opposition surely, it makes to so much more fun to get through on a questionable decision rather than a clear cut penalty. I kind of like the fact that it's another nation, like Denmark, that can look back on a decision and use it as an excuse. May that list grow as long as the number of countries in the Euros and World Cups.
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imp566
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Post by imp566 on Jul 11, 2024 11:24:12 GMT
Outside of the penalty area, that challenge is a foul in every match you watch. The challenge was late (he didn't get the ball) and studs first. Where it is on the pitch has no bearing to the outcome. I cringed when I heard Gary Neville say that he believes there should be more allowance given to that sort of tackle in the penalty area! A true defender talking! Nevilles just trying to wind up the opposition surely, it makes to so much more fun to get through on a questionable decision rather than a clear cut penalty. I kind of like the fact that it's another nation, like Denmark, that can look back on a decision and use it as an excuse. May that list grow as long as the number of countries in the Euros and World Cups. It certainly didn't come across that way, more that he was part of the 'Defender's Union' and supporting a comrade!
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Post by funkymonk on Jul 11, 2024 11:24:33 GMT
Argentina would be round of 16, winner, winner, final (TBD) though so that shout must be sewn up.
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Post by cufctheparrot on Jul 11, 2024 11:24:49 GMT
It's not a foul anywhere in the pitch. His foot wasn't high, Kane had his foot just as high and he kicked the defender, surely that's dangerous too! Nobody reacted at all until Kane did his usual routine. He knew exactly what he was doing: make it seem worse, stop the goal-kick being taken and then was miraculously up on his feet when the decision was made. That sort of behaviour is one of the many things that make the game so hard to watch and he is as bad as I've seen for it. Actually, having watched it again, the handball by Saka should make the whole debate regarding the foul irrelevant! Did the Dutch player touch the ball in the challenge - No, Kane got there first Was it a studs first challenge? Yes. Both of those facts are enough to meet the threshold for a foul, inside the penalty area or anywhere on the pitch. You may not like it, but that is what the Law states. Law 12: A direct free kick (or penalty) is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force. Tackles or challenges - Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned Subjective as always, but that type of offence is considered reckless if they don't get the ball. Scotland had a player sent of for a reckless challenge in the box and a penalty. Netherlands got off lightly!
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Post by cufctheparrot on Jul 11, 2024 11:28:21 GMT
Nevilles just trying to wind up the opposition surely, it makes to so much more fun to get through on a questionable decision rather than a clear cut penalty. I kind of like the fact that it's another nation, like Denmark, that can look back on a decision and use it as an excuse. May that list grow as long as the number of countries in the Euros and World Cups. It certainly didn't come across that way, more that he was part of the 'Defender's Union' and supporting a comrade! Yes, your probably right (i can't really comment as I was in the stadium so not seen his reaction at half time). We were all surprised it went to VAR, but, you can't argue with the ref!
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Post by El Goodo on Jul 11, 2024 12:03:07 GMT
Guess it depends if you'd count France as bettering it. Round of 16 elimination against, but world cup win and final probably counts for. Well no because winning the final is the same stage of the tournament as losing the final. It is... the final stage.
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Post by funkymonk on Jul 11, 2024 12:52:25 GMT
Yeah wasn't sure if you were measuring stages or not. Either way, it's one for the Argies.
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Post by madmarvin on Jul 11, 2024 13:01:53 GMT
I think the fact that there are so many varied opinions on the incident means that it wasn't a clear and obvious error so VAR shouldn't even have intervened.
Personally I don't think it was a penalty but I'll take it all day long thank you very much.
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Denton
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Post by Denton on Jul 11, 2024 13:09:07 GMT
I know previously it looked like I strongly disliked Southgate but it turns out my account was actually hacked for a long while and someone was posting Southgate slander on my account.
We've rode our luck and we may need to ride it again but yesterday was the first game where he looked proactive to the game infront of us. Subs were spot on and nearly the entire team performed at the levels they should
Could easily have gone out of the tournament a few times but we're hanging in there, as a terrible man once said "fine lines"
Off to Berlin I go
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Post by El Goodo on Jul 11, 2024 13:21:10 GMT
I know previously it looked like I strongly disliked Southgate but it turns out my account was actually hacked for a long while and someone was posting Southgate slander on my account.
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