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Post by oliworth on Jul 9, 2011 17:39:08 GMT
Come on, own up. which one of you is it? Whoever it was, might I be the first to say 'thanks' for making us look like the friendly family club we aim to be :s
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Post by Hugh Jerection on Jul 9, 2011 17:44:49 GMT
The whole EDL march looks like somebody has cloned the audience of the Jeremy Kyle show!
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Post by soulhalshall on Jul 9, 2011 18:29:31 GMT
Didn't see any of the anti march but watched the EDL walk along by the Corn Exchange. Wow, what a bunch of knuckle draggers. I was standing above them on the walkway by the car park. I was just looking down at them and received a volley of all sorts of abuse. Three separate blokes pointed at me and shouted a selection of abuse - 'c***', 'f*** off' 'you f***** poof'. A few examples there for you. I don't really know why they were so angry at the bystanders. Maybe they are just angry all the time.
They just looked ludicrous. They are an absolute joke. I was quite angry about their presence really. They are a mess; they're probably all there thinking the group stands for different things. Not that it really matters, because it's just an excuse to drink and wander around acting like morons.
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Post by MartinL on Jul 9, 2011 18:36:39 GMT
Well said bob, sure to upset a few on the socialist chat board. Not upset me in any way - I actually agree with bob somewhat. Having said that I respect someone who hates racists more than someone who hates muslims
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Post by pappasmurf on Jul 9, 2011 19:54:08 GMT
.....That Cambridge fan on the video was rather animated.
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Post by MartinL on Jul 9, 2011 21:12:10 GMT
Maybe his name was Shaun..........
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Post by Russ Greaves on Jul 10, 2011 8:54:03 GMT
There's a massive distinction between hating Muslims and hating racists though.
It's a bit like saying murderers and soldiers have lots in common because they both kill people.
Edit: I recognise that CUFC fan. Don't know his name though.
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Post by Hugh Jerection on Jul 10, 2011 9:25:13 GMT
There's a massive distinction between hating Muslims and hating racists though. It's a bit like saying murderers and soldiers have lots in common because they both kill people. Edit: I recognise that CUFC fan. Don't know his name though. I agree there is a distinction, but it's the way they handle their reasons for marching. Both sides have pure hatred for each other and both of their arguments are clouded by that hatred for the other side.
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Post by shaunxX on Jul 10, 2011 9:51:13 GMT
You could hate both, if the Muslim was radical? Or any radical come to think of it?
Here's to peace and harmony, difficult scenario with radicals.
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Post by stirstick on Jul 10, 2011 10:44:06 GMT
Attended both marches and the speeches afterwards. 4 times as many UAF marchers as EDL, and 4 times less drunk. Several dozen Utd regulars with the UAF, some with shirts/scarves, 1 or 2 with placards. Most in civvies. Well natured procession. Cross section of families, Churches, Labour Party, Unions, and the usual Progressives. Received general applause - loudest in Trinity Street - around the town and free water from the shopkeepers on Mill Rd. Poster slogan for the march seemed to be mainly "Cambridge:United". Hundreds of these. One confrontation only and that was at the Gwydir St junction on Mill Rd. About 6 blokes - 2 United regulars. Very surprised at these 2 high profile identities. very surprised indeed!! EDL march descended into violence on Kings Parade. Between themselves. 5 arrests resulting mostly from public disorder, urinating in public and general catch-all 'behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace'. Mostly drunk before the march on Danish lager. High number of these at Kings Cross mid morning according to other travellers. Others coached in from places like Daventry and other East Midlands areas according to the coach company details. Mostly from the South East and fewer from East Anglia. Organised into Army type descriptions - Colchester Garrison Division (bet the real army love that!), Thanet Division, East London Battalion, Norwich Division, Kent Special Services Unit. Stewarded by their own "security" in hi-vis. Also pissed. Did their best to impress the tourists and punt touts with " Allah is a Paedo, Allah is a paedo" , " wot you looking at you c@ t?", "f@ck off you UAF scum" ( to a large group of Spanish teenagers and a tour guide outside St Catherines). Heard speeches at the end by the usual broken noses, and an EDL Angel. An overweight punkette and more worryingly "mother", who made no sense at all. (The Angels are the Womens Unit). There was a rendition of God Save Our Queen - sung quite well! - and a minutes silence "for our brothers fighting the Taliban for England, right now at this moment in Pakistan". This lasted about 20 seconds before the Thanet Division started up with " E, E, EDL... E,E, EDL " Couple of United 'faces'. Couple of the earlier mentioned Mill Rd Division and the lad in the shirt pictured somewhere on this thread with bright red shorts and white ankle socks pulled right up. Should have been arrested for that alone. Local plod phot'd the Cambridge boys and one said that he was also quite surprised. No sign of The General although that had been promised. More urinating outside Queens College and at least 2 with a very large dark patch indeed in the crotch area of there Turkish made jeans. As I say, speeches didnt amount to much other than "1 more mosque and we'll be back. Thousands of us. " FYI
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Post by Lurid on Jul 10, 2011 10:44:16 GMT
There's a massive distinction between hating Muslims and hating racists though. It's a bit like saying murderers and soldiers have lots in common because they both kill people. Edit: I recognise that CUFC fan. Don't know his name though. I agree there is a distinction, but it's the way they handle their reasons for marching. Both sides have pure hatred for each other and both of their arguments are clouded by that hatred for the other side. There is a clear distinction between hating people, hating a cause and hating people that espouse a cause. That distinction is sometimes ignored or obscured to make criticism easier. To talk of sides and pure hatred is to cast conflict in an extreme and protagonists of all views as hating agitators. Those that take an interest in history are aware of the methods of 'control by fear' and 'divide and rule'. In a free country expression is peaceful and opinion is something you form yourself rather than being told what to think. If people want to believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden then they are welcome to. The issue for me is how they relate to others. There are extreme people in all walks of life, how we treat them says much more about society and ourselves than them. I'm glad that bigots get a chance to express themselves, but I'm also glad that most people have more sense than to support such views. A large gap in the political landscape is the debate made with reason. Spurious points of argument go unchallenged in the media and education does little to prepare the electorate for such logical sleight of hand. (more help from advertising in teaching caution through the pocket) While the bun fights continue there is nothing to learn from, no wonder people shout out from a position of ignorance, feeling that their problem is dismissed without reason. Whilst playing to the gallery, rallying your own support, is rewarded more than making a sound point by the workings of the political machine this will continue. A democratic system is one that rewards democratic behaviour.
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Post by tedbaker79 on Jul 10, 2011 11:08:01 GMT
interesting that no one has mentioned the group of about 20 to 30 muslims or "asians" that were going round town looking for trouble in particular throwing beer bottles at english people outside the university arms hotel. which resulted in a child being hit on the leg by it.
btw theres nothing racist about a group of people marching against a £5million pound mosque being built by tax payers money for the people our country are currently in a terrorist war with.
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Post by Rico on Jul 10, 2011 11:24:13 GMT
It's not being paid for by tax payers money. You should check your facts before you start making misinformed comments.
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Post by tedbaker79 on Jul 10, 2011 11:27:13 GMT
whos paying for it then ricola?
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Post by stirstick on Jul 10, 2011 11:35:57 GMT
Those that are going to use it Ted. No taxpayers money at all.
Nice use of Jerusalem BTW . You do know that it is a Socialist hymn by William Blake, a socialist ?
So which Church do you go to? Nice service was it ? What was the sermon about? What were the readings? Who did you pray for today?
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