tedbaker79
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Post by tedbaker79 on Jul 11, 2011 11:13:50 GMT
Stirstick, you said: "One confrontation only and that was at the Gwydir St junction on Mill Rd. About 6 blokes - 2 United regulars. Very surprised at these 2 high profile identities. very surprised indeed!!" Will you, or can you, name names? Surely CUFC should know if any of its supporters are associating themselves with a racist and sometimes violent organisation. (And, please, no one come out with the old chestnut about the EDL not being racist. That has been comprehensively disproved.) lol yeah go on name some of the guys. i no at least 7 guys who were on the march that stand at the back in the abbey every week. and most of you probably no them. doesn't mean they are bad people though. but they were on the march so what would you suggest the club does to these loyal supporters?
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Post by Lepus europaeus on Jul 11, 2011 11:14:54 GMT
Personally, I'd string 'em up.
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Post by orchardpark on Jul 11, 2011 11:43:14 GMT
Stirstick, you said: "One confrontation only and that was at the Gwydir St junction on Mill Rd. About 6 blokes - 2 United regulars. Very surprised at these 2 high profile identities. very surprised indeed!!" Will you, or can you, name names? Surely CUFC should know if any of its supporters are associating themselves with a racist and sometimes violent organisation. (And, please, no one come out with the old chestnut about the EDL not being racist. That has been comprehensively disproved.) IMO Has this got anything to do with CUFC? are we going to name the anti fascists who again are 'sometimes violent'. Only if someone uses racists words or actions at CUFC should it be an issue. That goes both ways. Intimidating someone with a different viewpoint to your own is not acceptable. You can have what political views you want, just don't bring them to CUFC.
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Post by Lepus europaeus on Jul 11, 2011 12:44:29 GMT
Hmm … how about wearing a U's shirt while expressing racist opinions?
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gstictok
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Post by gstictok on Jul 11, 2011 12:53:42 GMT
Having watched the video and seen some of the pictures I am wondering why if the EDL is a non racist legitimate group people were covering their faces or wearing masks? Have they got something to hide?
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Post by jasonhall on Jul 11, 2011 13:04:09 GMT
What odd looking people, they must be missing a gene or two somewhere.
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Post by Lepus europaeus on Jul 11, 2011 13:05:58 GMT
From the club's customer charter:
"Cambridge United Football Club will not tolerate sexual or racially based harassment or other discriminatory behaviour, whether physical or verbal, and will work to ensure that such behaviour is met with appropriate disciplinary action in whatever context it occurs." (My italics.)
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shaunxX
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Post by shaunxX on Jul 11, 2011 13:20:21 GMT
paddythedaddy, I guess that may rule out any persons of faith that is homophobic from attending ? maybe needs to be re-worded to ensure all are welcome without being abusive whilst at the ground.
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Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 11, 2011 13:21:56 GMT
Must admit I had a read of the HEN at lunchtime and I frankly couldn't believe their awful reporting of what went on at these marches. 200 at the EDL march? come on. Like them or loathe them (and I frankly hate them) there were considerably more than 200 thugs marching on Saturday. The ten minutes or so I spent stuck trying to get out of the Grand Arcade car park as they knuckle dragged past us suggests that the true number was, worryingly, much, much higher.
Sadly, I saw absolutely no evidence of the UAF counter demo march at all, despite having lunch in the city centre sitting at an outside table at Don Pasquale.
I've never seen so many police in my life however..............
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Post by lennypack on Jul 11, 2011 13:24:42 GMT
That charter is an internal thing applying to the conduct of members of staff vis a vis customers, I don't see how it's relevant to the issue of CUFC fans going on EDL marches.
The EDL is a collection of thicko morons but if its CUFC supporting members simply turn up to games and leave their xenophobia and racism at the gate then really there is no justification for banning them.
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soulhalshall
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Post by soulhalshall on Jul 11, 2011 13:36:14 GMT
Having watched the EDL march pass, I'd say 200 sounds like a reasonably accurate figure.
I don't know why people in the group bother trying to present the EDL as anything other than a bunch of racists. Maybe the initial intention was to be a releatively civil English group but it would seem that so many racists have alligned themselves to the group that there's no longer any evidence of civility. Anyone who actually wanted to make a point about a mosque or immigration rationally wouldn't go near the EDL.
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Post by Lepus europaeus on Jul 11, 2011 13:36:46 GMT
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree on that one, then. It's possible my hatred of the EDL and similar organisations is colouring my thoughts.
The fact remains that some people wearing Cambridge United merchandise, visibly and clearly associating themselves with the club, took part in a protest at which racist opinions were expressed.
And I know that if I had anything to do with the management of the club, I would not want the club to be thus associated with those people.
Oh sod it, string 'em up.
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Post by bamberamber on Jul 11, 2011 14:05:16 GMT
But Paddy, everyone has the right to protest, just because they were in a crowd full of racists in a united shirt you can't tar them with the same brush.
I'm not defending the actions of anyone, I'm not saying that the people there were or were not racist either, simply that there is no evidence of them being racist, violent or anything other than expressing their concerns in a legal manner.
I have many concerns regarding immigration, extremism and the slow but sure decline of national identity, I would never be a part of the EDL, BNP or NF but I do want the United Kingdom to finally do something about the level of illegal immigrants and the constant influx of unskilled workers, this country is simply not going to keep on coping with the rise of population year on year.
That said it was a poor choice of clothing for anyone that did wear their shirt to the knuckle draggers ball.
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Post by Lepus europaeus on Jul 11, 2011 14:17:49 GMT
Point taken, bamber. I'm not claiming the people in United shirts were yelling racist abuse, as some of those around them did. I'm merely pointing out that they took part in a protest at which racist opinions were expressed; they were associating themselves with people who expressed racist opinions.
That's their choice, of course. They have the right to protest, just as I have the right to call the EDL silly twits.
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Mark of Carnage
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Jul 11, 2011 15:34:42 GMT
i no at least 7 guys who were on the march that stand at the back in the abbey every week. and most of you probably no them. doesn't mean they are bad people though. 'doesn't mean they are bad people though' course not... I wonder how could anyone come to that conclusion after all they did go on the 'nice persons' march
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