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Post by ilovechadders on Mar 17, 2024 16:47:30 GMT
Perspective I felt a need to write something following our poor run of form and the subsequent meltdown on this message board. Us (U’s!) football fans are emotional beings. I tend not to post after a game, especially a defeat as, like the rest of you, I feel disappointed and annoyed. Like you all, I love our club and it often helps me get a distraction or release from the other things in life (Right now this is especially true for me, I've had a particularly bad few months). I know this is true for many people. So, it's no wonder that emotions are running high. I've read a few comments about not feeling connected to this team and no real love for the players. This isn't surprising really, if you consider the team before got us promoted, the win at Newcastle, the great escape and the stability of Bonner in charge. This season that's all changed, so it's no wonder that many don't feel connected to our team right now. It's a hard job for them to live up to those previous achievements. ‘The players have downed tools’ - another comment I've read a few times. I really don't think this is the case. It's highly unlikely that the majority of the players aren't playing well out of choice. I don't think there are many footballers period that go on strike. Of course there will always be individual cases of this happening, but a whole team/majority of a team, I very much doubt it. Football (as we know) is a confidence game and large defeats really don't help. Singling out players like Cousins, Stevens, Rennet for not caring or ‘terrible’ performances. Ok, several players haven't played well, I agree. However, there's a very one sided view when it comes to analysing a game. Point in case, Cousins in the Northampton game. He actually had a good first half, played really well, but there was very little mention of this. The point is, when things aren't going well, us fans tend to focus entirely on the negative and completely ignore any positive at all. When we are full of emotions we certainly aren't rational or objective! Garry Monk - 3 games in charge! That's all. I know we have had 2 big defeats, but maybe just maybe there are some other factors at play rather than ‘Monk not having a clue’. Factors like Lincoln being on fire at the moment or confidence being low after Harris leaving and a run of defeats. It's hard to change the mentality of a losing run. Garry Monk is a decent manager and has a pretty good record. Just because he hasn't been a manager for 3 years doesn't mean he's totally out of touch. He would have been involved in some way or another in football. In any case, he's not going anywhere and polls about whether he should be sacked or not are really very unhelpful. Financial - I believe that we have either the 4th or 5th lowest budget in the league for players. I'm sure FAB will be able to give you the actual facts of the matter. The point is, a lot of people complain about our recruitment and that Strang and Bonner made bad appointments. I would like to see someone do better with our budget. Must be a really tough job. Yes, on occasion there are teams with low budgets who punch above their weight and go on to have great seasons but it's few and far between. Most of the time, teams on low budgets struggle. Simple. Injuries - we've had quite a few key injuries to contend with. It really has been part of the issue for us this season. Essentially, Cambridge united are in the best position we have been in a long time. It's not going to be smooth sailing as we are in a tough league punching well above out financial status. I'm not asking you all to be happy about where we are right now with regards to our form and league position. I'm not asking you to like Garry Monk. I'm not asking you to like all our players. I am asking you to get behind our team and cheer us on, because we have a responsibility to put our best foot forward as well as the people who play for and run our club. Going to get pretty annoyed and upset if I start to hear booing of our own team on match day. I don't think it's far away but I'm not a fan of this behaviour as it just doesn't help anything. Will I be annoyed/upset if we go down? Yes, of course. Will I still be buying my season ticket next season anyway? Yes, undoubtedly, because I'm a Cambridge united supporter. Regards James (aka uncle Mike) This is a great post. We lose the sense of objectivity in football. The fact we have survived in this division against clubs the size of Portsmouth, Bolton, Reading (all ex-Prem clubs) is about as good as it gets for Cambridge considering our size and history. Only gradual, sustainable progress is possible and we had that for 4 great years under Bonner who delivered us survival in League 2, promotion to League 1, a great FA Cup win against Newcastle and 3 seasons in the league. On a comparatively shoe-string sized budget for the division. I don't think we're in any place to start complaining about the style of football, when league survival is the objective. The big elephant in the room for me is Paul Barry. He is the one who jeopardised stability and progress with Bonner for a complete chancer and bullshit merchant in Neil Harris and then replace it with someone who looks like he has forgotten how to manage. We simply cannot afford the time it will require to get Monk back in the game. Ultimately, these consecutively poor decisions are led by a man who cannot be held to account by the fact he is the owner of the club. How can we expect any major improvements to our performances if the budget is the same and there is no real progress on the stadium? Perhaps it's time the change needed is in investment and direction instead of the management and playing squad.... Welcome to the board and a 1/10 attempt at trolling with your first post.
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Post by texaspete on Mar 17, 2024 16:47:38 GMT
The big elephant in the room for me is Paul Barry. He is the one who jeopardised stability and progress with Bonner for a complete chancer and bullshit merchant in Neil Harris and then replace it with someone who looks like he has forgotten how to manage. We simply cannot afford the time it will require to get Monk back in the game. Ultimately, these consecutively poor decisions are led by a man who cannot be held to account by the fact he is the owner of the club. How can we expect any major improvements to our performances if the budget is the same and there is no real progress on the stadium? Perhaps it's time the change needed is in investment and direction instead of the management and playing squad.... Are you on drugs?
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Mar 17, 2024 16:47:46 GMT
walterwhite:
The big elephant in the room for me is Paul Barry.
My only response to that is …huh?
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Post by Andrewlang on Mar 17, 2024 16:47:53 GMT
Barry the elephant packed his trunk and said goodbye to the circus.
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No, Barry isn't the problem for me. These decisions rest with him him I'm sure, but are recommended by the sporting director.
Andrew
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 17, 2024 16:50:40 GMT
If we're relegated it'll be 100% Paul Barry's fault.
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Post by andycufc on Mar 17, 2024 16:51:34 GMT
Perspective I felt a need to write something following our poor run of form and the subsequent meltdown on this message board. Us (U’s!) football fans are emotional beings. I tend not to post after a game, especially a defeat as, like the rest of you, I feel disappointed and annoyed. Like you all, I love our club and it often helps me get a distraction or release from the other things in life (Right now this is especially true for me, I've had a particularly bad few months). I know this is true for many people. So, it's no wonder that emotions are running high. I've read a few comments about not feeling connected to this team and no real love for the players. This isn't surprising really, if you consider the team before got us promoted, the win at Newcastle, the great escape and the stability of Bonner in charge. This season that's all changed, so it's no wonder that many don't feel connected to our team right now. It's a hard job for them to live up to those previous achievements. ‘The players have downed tools’ - another comment I've read a few times. I really don't think this is the case. It's highly unlikely that the majority of the players aren't playing well out of choice. I don't think there are many footballers period that go on strike. Of course there will always be individual cases of this happening, but a whole team/majority of a team, I very much doubt it. Football (as we know) is a confidence game and large defeats really don't help. Singling out players like Cousins, Stevens, Rennet for not caring or ‘terrible’ performances. Ok, several players haven't played well, I agree. However, there's a very one sided view when it comes to analysing a game. Point in case, Cousins in the Northampton game. He actually had a good first half, played really well, but there was very little mention of this. The point is, when things aren't going well, us fans tend to focus entirely on the negative and completely ignore any positive at all. When we are full of emotions we certainly aren't rational or objective! Garry Monk - 3 games in charge! That's all. I know we have had 2 big defeats, but maybe just maybe there are some other factors at play rather than ‘Monk not having a clue’. Factors like Lincoln being on fire at the moment or confidence being low after Harris leaving and a run of defeats. It's hard to change the mentality of a losing run. Garry Monk is a decent manager and has a pretty good record. Just because he hasn't been a manager for 3 years doesn't mean he's totally out of touch. He would have been involved in some way or another in football. In any case, he's not going anywhere and polls about whether he should be sacked or not are really very unhelpful. Financial - I believe that we have either the 4th or 5th lowest budget in the league for players. I'm sure FAB will be able to give you the actual facts of the matter. The point is, a lot of people complain about our recruitment and that Strang and Bonner made bad appointments. I would like to see someone do better with our budget. Must be a really tough job. Yes, on occasion there are teams with low budgets who punch above their weight and go on to have great seasons but it's few and far between. Most of the time, teams on low budgets struggle. Simple. Injuries - we've had quite a few key injuries to contend with. It really has been part of the issue for us this season. Essentially, Cambridge united are in the best position we have been in a long time. It's not going to be smooth sailing as we are in a tough league punching well above out financial status. I'm not asking you all to be happy about where we are right now with regards to our form and league position. I'm not asking you to like Garry Monk. I'm not asking you to like all our players. I am asking you to get behind our team and cheer us on, because we have a responsibility to put our best foot forward as well as the people who play for and run our club. Going to get pretty annoyed and upset if I start to hear booing of our own team on match day. I don't think it's far away but I'm not a fan of this behaviour as it just doesn't help anything. Will I be annoyed/upset if we go down? Yes, of course. Will I still be buying my season ticket next season anyway? Yes, undoubtedly, because I'm a Cambridge united supporter. Regards James (aka uncle Mike) This is a great post. We lose the sense of objectivity in football. The fact we have survived in this division against clubs the size of Portsmouth, Bolton, Reading (all ex-Prem clubs) is about as good as it gets for Cambridge considering our size and history. Only gradual, sustainable progress is possible and we had that for 4 great years under Bonner who delivered us survival in League 2, promotion to League 1, a great FA Cup win against Newcastle and 3 seasons in the league. On a comparatively shoe-string sized budget for the division. I don't think we're in any place to start complaining about the style of football, when league survival is the objective. The big elephant in the room for me is Paul Barry. He is the one who jeopardised stability and progress with Bonner for a complete chancer and bullshit merchant in Neil Harris and then replace it with someone who looks like he has forgotten how to manage. We simply cannot afford the time it will require to get Monk back in the game. Ultimately, these consecutively poor decisions are led by a man who cannot be held to account by the fact he is the owner of the club. How can we expect any major improvements to our performances if the budget is the same and there is no real progress on the stadium? Perhaps it's time the change needed is in investment and direction instead of the management and playing squad.... Paul Barry’s the problem? I have to say, I think this is an awful take. Truly bizarre.
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Mar 17, 2024 16:51:46 GMT
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Post by Andrewlang on Mar 17, 2024 16:51:46 GMT
Silly sausage.
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Post by ilovechadders on Mar 17, 2024 16:55:30 GMT
If we're relegated it'll be 100% Paul Barry's fault. If you had been on this board for more than 24 hours you would know that it would be Jordan Cousins’ fault, please keep up.
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Mar 17, 2024 16:56:00 GMT
Walter White ….?….I’m trying to think which other word begins with a ‘w’ which would describe you more accurately….,
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Post by walterwhite on Mar 17, 2024 16:57:10 GMT
Can't really blame any of the players, they've had 4 managers this season. No wonder they look disillusioned.
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Mar 17, 2024 17:02:58 GMT
Let’s just ignore this prick.
Anyways moving on. I remember last season when we were clearly in a relegation scrap (Feb? March?) someone posted that they couldn’t see us getting another point from our remaining fixtures. They were rightly challenged and proved wrong.
I’m now starting to wonder where our next points are coming from. Probably best to come back to this after Barnsley?
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Post by malotru on Mar 17, 2024 17:03:04 GMT
The big elephant in the room for me is Paul Barry. He is the one who jeopardised stability and progress with Bonner for a complete chancer and bullshit merchant in Neil Harris and then replace it with someone who looks like he has forgotten how to manage. We simply cannot afford the time it will require to get Monk back in the game. Ultimately, these consecutively poor decisions are led by a man who cannot be held to account by the fact he is the owner of the club. How can we expect any major improvements to our performances if the budget is the same and there is no real progress on the stadium? Perhaps it's time the change needed is in investment and direction instead of the management and playing squad.... Are you on drugs? He’s high on his own supply
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Post by cufcdenmark on Mar 17, 2024 17:06:08 GMT
Can't really blame any of the players, they've had 4 managers this season. No wonder they look disillusioned. But the man who has invested millions into the club, keeping us alive, making us stable, spending millions improving the training facilities and bought the ground back for the club is totally to blame. I suppose we could always ask "yes, but what has he done for us lately?"
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Post by Andrewlang on Mar 17, 2024 17:23:40 GMT
Back to Monk rather than whatever nonsense this is.
This two weeks is pretty crucial I think. He really should have been able to figure the squad out after the first week of training and the first game, it's all a bit shocking just how bad he's got it.
If we can't, at the very least, be 'hard to beat' against Barnsley then I'm not sure he'll ever figure out how to get the best out of the team.
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Mar 17, 2024 17:30:19 GMT
Back to Monk rather than whatever nonsense this is. This two weeks is pretty crucial I think. He really should have been able to figure the squad out after the first week of training and the first game, it's all a bit shocking just how bad he's got it. If we can't, at the very least, be 'hard to beat' against Barnsley then I'm not sure he'll ever figure out how to get the best out of the team. Andrew Agree Andrew. He’ll have time to work out some kind of plan to get us over the line and I’ll be more than happy to give him the chance to do that. My instinct still doubts he can do that and his interviews are worrying. Just like the performances and results. But yes, let’s wait and see.
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