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Post by barry on Nov 26, 2024 10:39:53 GMT
Are you going to tell me what Labour are doing about immigration instead of using the standard Labour sound bite of blaming the previous government. That’s now in the past. Apart from scrapping Rwanda what are they doing to reduce the number of boats? I don't vote based on immigration policy so you're asking the wrong person. Not a significant issue for me ~50k people out of 1.2 million immigrants. Seems like it’s not an issue for many Labour voters as you agree there is no policy apart from open the doors, use more hotels and tax payers money to support them. The numbers have taken off since the election too so well done. |
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Post by cambsno on Nov 26, 2024 10:49:39 GMT
I don't vote based on immigration policy so you're asking the wrong person. Not a significant issue for me ~50k people out of 1.2 million immigrants. Seems like it’s not an issue for many Labour voters as you agree there is no policy apart from open the doors, use more hotels and tax payers money to support them. The numbers have taken off since the election too so well done. They had been taking off for the last 14 years... what did the tories do, closed down proper avenues so boats were the only option for many. Whether you like him or not is immaterial but Starmer has been in the job 5 months and the tories couldn't crack it in 14 years. He has said they have got border force etc. to look at this and the key thing when confronted with a problem is to understand the cause of it, what can be done, what can't be done, thrash ideas behind closed doors etc and that won't be done in 5 months. It's a bit like sacking monk today, bringing in AN Other and moaning that we are not in the Premier League within 3 years!! Rwanda was a vanity project, had no benefit and lots of cost (unless you believe the likes of Farage and Yaxley Lennon). There is stuff labour have got wrong IMO like the pension grab in IHT and farmers. But immigration, they need a chance |
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Nov 26, 2024 12:47:08 GMT
I don't vote based on immigration policy so you're asking the wrong person. Not a significant issue for me ~50k people out of 1.2 million immigrants. Seems like it’s not an issue for many Labour voters as you agree there is no policy apart from open the doors, use more hotels and tax payers money to support them. The numbers have taken off since the election too so well done. You don't want to vote for anyone so clearly happy with how things are going. |
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barry
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Post by barry on Nov 26, 2024 14:30:57 GMT
Seems like it’s not an issue for many Labour voters as you agree there is no policy apart from open the doors, use more hotels and tax payers money to support them. The numbers have taken off since the election too so well done. You don't want to vote for anyone so clearly happy with how things are going. I think that things are going from bad to worse. Liar Starmer hasn’t got a clue and Reeves and Rayner are so out of their depth it’s untrue. When you look at the experience that they had back in the day with Darling and Beckett, Prescott too the current lot aren’t fit to clean their shoes. But you carry on blaming everyone else, my guess in 4 years time nothing will be their fault then either. |
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Post by imp566 on Nov 26, 2024 14:36:51 GMT
In politics, its always easy to throw stones at those in government for a poor record, then blame them when you gain power yourself and try to implement your own ideas, which may or may not be any better than what has come before. Red and Blue have their own ideals about how a country should be governed, and never the twain shall meet.
Rinse and repeat ad nauseum!
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Post by cambsno on Nov 26, 2024 14:42:15 GMT
You don't want to vote for anyone so clearly happy with how things are going. I think that things are going from bad to worse. Liar Starmer hasn’t got a clue and Reeves and Rayner are so out of their depth it’s untrue. When you look at the experience that they had back in the day with Darling and Beckett, Prescott too the current lot aren’t fit to clean their shoes. But you carry on blaming everyone else, my guess in 4 years time nothing will be their fault then either. Oh yes, and Truss was great wasn't she, Boris too, crashing the economy. And as for Rishis idea to bring in national service (while paying not a lot in tax) and the other cabinet minister forgetting to pay millions... |
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Post by barry on Nov 26, 2024 23:14:23 GMT
Bizarre. Again harping back to the last government as a deflection on how the current lot are screwing everything up so quickly.
Immigration stopped by smashing the gangs. Not happening.
Growth growth growth. Nope, that’s not happening now that Reeve’s has screwed business with her budget
Build 1.5m homes by 2029. Not a hope of that happening.
At least Starmer is bringing in a law to make spiking drinks a specific crime. Whoops, we already have that in law. What was his previous job, I’m sure he mentioned it one.
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Post by cambsno on Nov 27, 2024 0:49:44 GMT
Bizarre. Again harping back to the last government as a deflection on how the current lot are screwing everything up so quickly. Immigration stopped by smashing the gangs. Not happening. Growth growth growth. Nope, that’s not happening now that Reeve’s has screwed business with her budget Build 1.5m homes by 2029. Not a hope of that happening. At least Starmer is bringing in a law to make spiking drinks a specific crime. Whoops, we already have that in law. What was his previous job, I’m sure he mentioned it one. Are you really this stupid?? It took the last lot 14 years to NOT sort immigration out - why would someone expect the new leader to sort it out in months? Like I said, if we sack Monk and put a new manager in, is it realistic to be challenging for the Premier League title in 3 years?? It is not deflecting to the last lot, it's how it is!! Any improvement on immigration will not be sudden as it's not possible to do that!! Even this weeks Tory leader would not sort it out in months as its impossible. If it was that easy dont you think they would have done it!! Growth - you cannot tell in this short timeframe Homes buy 2029 - I will help you with the maths as you seem to dumb to work it out, thats 5 years away. Out of 65 months available (assuming its to the end of 2029), they have had 5 months, no idea id they will fall 1m short or 1m above that number yet. Its like stopping a game at 5 mins and saying team a will not score! But then I guess you support the tories for sticking up for the farmers over IHT - forgetting that the tories screwed them over with Brexit!! and crashed the economy. Never thought I would hear from anyone more delusional than the ex wife - I stand corrected!! |
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