Rico
First team regular
Posts: 7,577
|
Post by Rico on Jul 4, 2011 9:20:46 GMT
Have you read the Koran then? The Bible says something similar BTW - "...whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman."
The Bible is full of stuff condoning murder and rape.
|
|
|
Post by pappasmurf on Jul 4, 2011 9:25:11 GMT
All I wish to say is, it's rather disappointing and shortsighted on the part of the powers that be, if this EDL march along with a counter demonstration is on the same day when many families who may be of various faiths, will be enjoying the "Big Weekend" celebrations on Parkers Piece.
|
|
smiffo
Global Moderator
Mod
Posts: 1,233
Favourite CUFC player: Martin Martin Butler
|
Post by smiffo on Jul 4, 2011 9:29:24 GMT
and what makes me laugh is the EDL are classed as racists but thats total bollox when the EDL have black and asian members!!!! so if there racists why do they allow black and asian people to become members??? the EDL are mostly english people who have the balls to stand up and be heard. the UAF are english muppets who are there to stur up s-h-i-t-e! if u go to many parts of england u wont see many english, ie luton,bradford,bedford,peterborough,leicester,burnley,oldham etc... and unless the english do something about it, its only going to get worse!! has anyone ever read the karan?? it says in it, whoever dont follow us and our religion should be killed. now thats a disgrace! the sooner somethings done about it the better id say!!! There's quite a few contradictions in there, but I'll give you a chance to clarify a couple of things. When you talk about an "English" person, what do you mean? If you mean just nationality and nothing to do with skin colour, your suggestion that you won't see "many English" in the cities you've listed is pretty flawed. You realise not all English people are white I presume? Also, what exactly is the issue with "not seeing many English" in some of these places as you put it? As for what you've said about the Quran, I'm sure it can be interpreted in many ways and what you've said may well be true in some sense. I'm quite ignorant in this respect as I honestly don't know any of the contents of the Quran and couldn't say you are wrong in that it says this. But how many people do you know who have read the Quran and gone out and killed people for not following what it preaches? I can't see me getting a reasonable response to this, but would like to see you take a step back and honestly answer some of the questions I've asked.
|
|
imp566
Cult hero
Posts: 16,722
|
Post by imp566 on Jul 4, 2011 9:31:26 GMT
All I wish to say is, it's rather disappointing and shortsighted on the part of the powers that be, if this EDL march along with a counter demonstration is on the same day when many families who may be of various faiths, will be enjoying the "Big Weekend" celebrations on Parkers Piece. You are absolutely correct! How on earth the Police have allowed this to go ahead on the same weekend I will never know. The potential for violence is very well known and understood. This will doubtless have a big influence on families who were planning to attend the "Big Weekend" festival. I wouldn't take a young family anywhere near the city centre with these demonstrations taking place. It never ceases to amaze me how the local authorities can dictate to our football club when they can play a fixture when there is just a whiff of potential trouble from opposing supporters, and then charge us for the pleasure of extra policing. Perhaps its the cynic in me which acknowledges that the police will be getting stacks of overtime this weekend - but who will be made to pick up the bill? The EDL? I doubt it!
|
|
|
Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 4, 2011 9:36:17 GMT
I hate to say that I'm not sure the police actually get a say in whether a march takes place at a particular time or not. Somebody will no doubt know the answer to this one, but it is down to 'rights of protest' laws or something like that.
Does anybody actually know if this is the case?
|
|
|
Post by cufc4life on Jul 4, 2011 10:00:22 GMT
well the EDL has black and asian members who are english, so i wouldnt say what the EDL do has anything to do with skin colour. the EDL'S issue is with not seeing many english in these cities is due to the fact that england is starting become a muslim state and if somethings not done about it, sooner rather than later when by then it will be tooo late to do anything about it! and by then we could al be reading from the quran and going to mosques.
what is the issue with not seeing many english in these cities, well were in england which should be for us english, but have u noticed alot of english people are having to move abroad because of there home towns/cities becoming 90% muslim. being forced from where there from all because our country allows muslims to come and take over where ever they want.
so these muslim terrorists who bombed london and new york wasnt infulenced by the quran in any way?? yes they were
and what makes me sick to my stomach is our troops have been sent out to these countries to stabelize them and they come back to muslims burning the poppy and shouting hatered towards them, and us english are supposed to stand by and watch it happen without having a say in it? sickening id say
this demo is on a perfect day in cambridge when everyones about in town to take notice to whats going on in our country!
and what makes me laugh even more is that the CEN has only published things the UAF has sent to them, abit biased id have to say when the comments by the EDL are facts rather than fiction!
so think to yourself, how many of thse countries ie india,pakistan,afganistan,iraq etc... have christian churches?? and where christians are allowed to practice christianity in peace?? christian churches in them countries get burnt down and christians get killed which is totally wrong, does that happen to muslims who come over here?? no
1 rule for 1 and 1 for another comes to mind!!
|
|
|
Post by cufc4life on Jul 4, 2011 10:07:48 GMT
i am not part of the EDL but i do respect those english people who have the balls to stand up and be heard!!!
|
|
Rico
First team regular
Posts: 7,577
|
Post by Rico on Jul 4, 2011 10:19:53 GMT
Oh FFS. Can you read? "how many of thse countries ie india,pakistan,afganistan,iraq etc... have christian churches??" All of them! As I've pointed out earlier in this thread if you'd bothered to read it. There are THOUSANDS of churches in India, and millions of Christians. There are 2.8 million Christians in Pakistan and lots of Churches. here's a picture of a CHURCH IN PAKISTAN because you seem to have a problem understanding words. "and what makes me laugh even more is that the CEN has only published things the UAF has sent to them, abit biased id have to say when the comments by the EDL are facts rather than fiction!' I haven't actually seen anything published by the CEN from the UAF, do you have a link? I did however read EDL's 'facts' which as I've pointed out above turn out to be lies. A quick google search can prove that.
|
|
|
Post by cufc4life on Jul 4, 2011 10:24:49 GMT
|
|
|
Post by cufc4life on Jul 4, 2011 10:31:53 GMT
|
|
Lurid
Reserve team star
Unita in conatu
Posts: 5,045
|
Post by Lurid on Jul 4, 2011 14:55:35 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Russ Greaves on Jul 4, 2011 15:31:06 GMT
cufc4life is a prime example of how dangerous ignorance can be. Unfortunately, such people are beyond reach because they will simply ignore the valid points which contradict their ill-founded views.
He also has a fundamental misunderstanding of our foreign policy if he thinks our troops are regularly deployed to "stabelize (sic)" foreign countries.
As for arbitrary 'stats' like some towns and cities being "90% Muslims", well, what can you say to that?
|
|
|
Post by El Goodo on Jul 4, 2011 16:14:15 GMT
I think the worst thing of it all is that the EDL garners support by peddling total falsehoods. Not just stats that can be interpreted one way or another, or grey areas of contention but actual, outright lies. It's not even stuff that's difficult to find out. The most basic of web searches can tell you whether or not there are churches in predominately muslim countries. Using India as an example of a muslim country... It's both hilarious and terrifying.
|
|
|
Post by Hugh Jerection on Jul 4, 2011 17:54:17 GMT
I hate to say that I'm not sure the police actually get a say in whether a march takes place at a particular time or not. Somebody will no doubt know the answer to this one, but it is down to 'rights of protest' laws or something like that. Does anybody actually know if this is the case? Your correct, the police can not turn down a request to protest as long as they have put their request to protest in writing to allow authorities to prepare, which IMO is fair enough. Edit: Just found the quote from the Human Rights act - The Human Rights Act protects freedom of expression and freedom of assembly – these form the basis for your right to gather with others and protest. The act forbids governments and other public bodies (including police) from violating these rights. However, it does allow for some limitations on these rights in order to prevent unrest, violence and crime, and for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
|
|
imp566
Cult hero
Posts: 16,722
|
Post by imp566 on Jul 4, 2011 18:08:34 GMT
They seemed to have enough of a say when we marched to the Abbey from town in protest at the Ginger one's antics.
|
|