Lurid
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Post by Lurid on Jul 27, 2011 14:16:21 GMT
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Post by warren62 on Jul 27, 2011 15:22:15 GMT
Top stuff Lurid thanks .
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Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 27, 2011 15:32:58 GMT
Off topic, but highly relevant to what Lurid has posted above, did anybody catch the recent Louis Theroux documentary on Miami Dade Prison? It completely backs up those stats above. A complete example of a poorly educated society in dire financial straights being made to pay with huge sentences.
Education, education education and opportunity is the way out of that, but for the good ol' US of A it is just too late, so incarceration on a grand scale is their only policy. It is nuts.
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Post by Rico on Jul 27, 2011 15:43:10 GMT
Some interesting anomalies there. For example there are around half the amount of prisoners in Northern Ireland (per capita) as there in England and Wales. (78 in Northern Ireland versus 150 in England and Wales)
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Post by imp50 on Jul 27, 2011 17:31:34 GMT
Education,education...
I can't help noticing that people such as Breivik and Bin Laden both share privileged and highly educated backgrounds. Indeed they appear to mirror each other in their views.Both appear highly narcicissictic ,both appear to want to reincarnate the Holy Wars of the past.Bin Laden in wanting to recreate the Caliphate when Islam was in the ascendency and Breivik with his fantasy Templars movement, of which, I would suggest he was the sole member. The common link is the same probable mental illness which is, that they both appear to suffer from, Narcissistic Personality Disorder .
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Jul 27, 2011 17:47:59 GMT
Education, education education and opportunity is the way out of that, but for the good ol' US of A it is just too late, so incarceration on a grand scale is their only policy. It is nuts. Jerry, are we to take it you have seen the light on investing in teaching in this country and recognise now the benefits to a wider society of investing in decent pensions for teachers.
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 27, 2011 19:58:34 GMT
yet another bull-s-h-i-t-e tread started by idiots! well watch this on youtube: EDL - Tommy Robinson's interview on BBC2 Newsnight (Today 25-07-2011) where tommy totally states this mad man in norway has NO CONNECTION to the edl but this mad man salutes groups like the edl that have the balls to stand up and be heard! and yet again this mornings interview betweeen sir tommy robinson and adrian charles where yet again the media bull s-h-i-t-e about the edl and yet again mr charles was put in place! both interviews are on youtube so watch and see for yourself! also theres a video on youtube you should check out with the name of: The Muslim Infestation Of Britain - Muslims Declare Intention Of Taking Over now this is a video that should be watched by all and take into account what the muslim bloke says about wanting muslims in parliament and wanting there laws in our country. thats a f-u-c-k-i-n disgrace as far as im concerned! this is not there country so if they dont like the laws then they should just f-u-c-k off bk to where they came from!! simple
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Jul 27, 2011 21:02:28 GMT
yet another bull-s-h-i-t-e tread started by idiots! well watch this on youtube: EDL - Tommy Robinson's interview on BBC2 Newsnight (Today 25-07-2011) where tommy totally states this mad man in norway has NO CONNECTION to the edl but this mad man salutes groups like the edl that have the balls to stand up and be heard! and yet again this mornings interview betweeen sir tommy robinson and adrian charles where yet again the media bull s-h-i-t-e about the edl and yet again mr charles was put in place! both interviews are on youtube so watch and see for yourself! also theres a video on youtube you should check out with the name of: The Muslim Infestation Of Britain - Muslims Declare Intention Of Taking Over now this is a video that should be watched by all and take into account what the muslim bloke says about wanting muslims in parliament and wanting there laws in our country. thats a f-u-c-k-i-n disgrace as far as im concerned! this is not there country so if they dont like the laws then they should just f-u-c-k off bk to where they came from!! simple Fascist tripe. Who cares what connection there is. This is certainly not a country decent people will ever allow to belong to fascists and their politics of hate whatever banner they march under and if the events in Norway serve as a wake up call to stop the EDL thats something positive to come of this tragedy- all fascists can f-u-c-k off as far as i'm concerned
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 27, 2011 21:25:22 GMT
EDL = NOT RACIST, NOT FASCIST BUT PATRIOT TO OUR QUEEN OUR COUNTRY AND MOST OF ALL OUR SOLDIERS DEAD/ALIVE!!!!
US EDL WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL ENGLAND IS BACK TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!!!! THOUGH UNFORTUNATELY THIS S-H-I-T-E COUNTRY IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS ANY BETTER AND ONCE ITS BETTER IT WILL BE BECAUSE OF US EDL
ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE AND PROUD!!!!!!!! NS
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Jul 27, 2011 22:16:51 GMT
THOUGH UNFORTUNATELY THIS S-H-I-T-E COUNTRY IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS ANY BETTER AND ONCE ITS BETTER IT WILL BE BECAUSE OF US EDL ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE AND PROUD!!!!!!!! NS Even when shouted its still fascist tripe... Sounds like some stuck record from the 1930s, all that burn everything and let the phoenix rise strong from the ashes. This is the reality of how given power fascists deal with people that are the target of their hate- Belsen 1945 photo taken by nazis before camp liberated. EDL are fascist and when fascists take power lots of people die. Its simple never again!
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Post by Rico on Jul 27, 2011 22:23:41 GMT
"EDL = NOT RACIST, NOT FASCIST"
"US EDL WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL ENGLAND IS BACK TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!!!!"
Oh dear. You really couldn't make it up.
Cufc4life - who do you mean by England's 'own people' exactly?
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Post by MartinL on Jul 28, 2011 0:03:35 GMT
Typical reply really- rather than coherently construct an argument they just try and shout you down- much like that muppet Lennon did on Newsnight.
Trying watching some videos of EDL supporters giving a nazi salute or wearing swastika armbands rather than just the ones you cherry pick.
As for the video you tell us to watch, are you implying that that person speaks for all Muslims. Have you watched the one about muslimist rayguns? Another incoherent EDL follower.
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Lurid
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Post by Lurid on Jul 28, 2011 5:06:51 GMT
Education,education... I can't help noticing that people such as Breivik and Bin Laden both share privileged and highly educated backgrounds. Indeed they appear to mirror each other in their views.Both appear highly narcicissictic ,both appear to want to reincarnate the Holy Wars of the past.Bin Laden in wanting to recreate the Caliphate when Islam was in the ascendency and Breivik with his fantasy Templars movement, of which, I would suggest he was the sole member. The common link is the same probable mental illness which is, that they both appear to suffer from, Narcissistic Personality Disorder . Hey! I resemble that remark. NPD need not manifest as monomaniacal plans to upset the world order through terrorism. The world would be a much more dangerous place if it did.
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Post by warren62 on Jul 28, 2011 6:41:51 GMT
Ok, I'm right of centre politically , but CUFC4LIFE what is going on in your head ? What your spouting is pure garbage and will solve nothing, there are serious social issues in this country to address and its not just skin or religion thats at the cause. Its education thats needed (with realistic pensions for teachers i.e in line with private sector ;-)).
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Post by cambcam on Jul 28, 2011 7:41:53 GMT
Yes there are serious social issues to be addressed and ignoring them (or at least not admitting the severity of them), pushes reasonable people to the right - and of course unreasonable people to extremes.
We have to ask why we are pushing people, hence the `Are we in some way responsible` post earlier.
There was a fabulous post from Cambridgebob at the top of page 9 on the last EDL thread. Who took the time to address his valid points? Nobody. It`s much easier to ignore them and ridicule.
Oh, and the teachers can sort out their own bloody pensions, along with the rest of the public sector wasters.
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