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Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 28, 2011 8:51:30 GMT
yet another bull-s-h-i-t-e tread started by idiots! It takes one to know one matey. Go polish your jackboots. |
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Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 28, 2011 9:32:08 GMT
Education, education education and opportunity is the way out of that, but for the good ol' US of A it is just too late, so incarceration on a grand scale is their only policy. It is nuts. Jerry, are we to take it you have seen the light on investing in teaching in this country and recognise now the benefits to a wider society of investing in decent pensions for teachers. Ha ha! touche Mark! I never doubted the need to invest in education, but there is more to that than just maintaining un-sustainable public sector pensions and work benefits! |
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 28, 2011 11:01:51 GMT
and it makes me laugh when people call me a racist just because i support the edl's vision! now how can i be racist when my girlfriend is black and my son is half cast??? im not a racist and neither a fascist! though there are some idiots who claim to be part of the edl that makes us edl look bad. now i dont condone what this bloke did in norway, neither do i condone what hitler did, though our country is a massive target to islamic extremists and our country is ALLOWING muslims to preech islam in every corner of it, by building mosques left right and centre, now thats a recipe for disaster! in years to come it will be a case of we told you so though we dont want it to get to the point of having to do so, before it gets to that point something has to be done about it!
now ive got friends who live in london and they hate it due to the fact there son is 1 of a hand full of white english in a class of 30 which most choose not to speak english! mostly muslim, so hes decided he wants to move out of london but the problem hes telling me is no matter where he moves his family its going to be the same!! i feel sorry for him and his family but the thing is, its only going to get worse over the years if somethings not done about it! this country has fucked up when it comes to immigration.
and what really takes the p-i-s-s is immigrants get everything on a plate when coming to england,house,benefits etc... but if your english our benefit system/council dont want to know you!! where has looking after your own gone?? hmmmmm
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Post by Rico on Jul 28, 2011 11:13:51 GMT
So your girlfriend is black? Presumably her family were one of the immigrants that got "everything on a plate"?
You say your friends aren't happy that their kid is one of the only 'white english' in his class. How would they feel if their kid was in a class with your non-white son? I suppose that would be OK because he's not a muslim?
You still haven't answered my question about who you consider to be England's "own people'?
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Post by cambcam on Jul 28, 2011 11:38:33 GMT
Who here would be happy if their child was the only white english in a class of 30 most of whom chose not to speak english?
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Post by Jerry1971 on Jul 28, 2011 11:47:11 GMT
Cambcam, I would not be happy with that scenario at all. But what do you propose to do to change that?
Note: The colour issue is irrelevant to me. The problem I would have is the language issue.
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Post by Rico on Jul 28, 2011 11:50:13 GMT
I wouldn't be happy if they didn't speak english, wouldn't bother me what colour they were though.
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 28, 2011 12:09:47 GMT
ricola, no her family didnt get anything on a plate as they already had everything before coming to england all those years ago so they have never had the need to scrounge off our government! now why the f-u-c-k would they care about there child being in the same class as mine? im white english and ive got black friends and was bought up with black school friends but never has black people out-run the white english population in schools, like muslims are currently doin but its not only schools, its towns/cities and its only going to get worse!! ive got no problem with skin colour of people its more a case of religous preches and islam is trying to take over but too many people are tooo blind to see it!!
what i dont consider to be our own people are people who preech islamic bulls-h-i-t-e, wanting mosques built everywhere so they can practise extremisim
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 28, 2011 12:24:24 GMT
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Post by Rico on Jul 28, 2011 12:33:15 GMT
Ok thanks for answering.
There are plenty of 'white english' people scrounging off the government too. You only have to take a look around any council estate to see that.
I'm not sure much extremism gets practised in mosques. It's more on the fringes that these extremists thrive. You've got to realise that not all muslims are extremists.
Just because I don't agree with all of the views of some wannabe football hooligans doesn't mean I don't share some concerns of the EDL. You views about muslims seem to be more hardline than that of the EDL leadership though. You seem much more in line with the BNP are their views on immigration.
I went to a primary school with a large muslim population, I never found it a problem but appreciate that in certain areas it maybe if lots of them don't speak english. The same would apply to any group of non-english speakers though. Lots of 'white english' kids also are causing problems in primary schools because their parents haven't bothered to read to them as children and so are far behind other kids even by the age of 4.
The best way to deal with your concerns is to speak about them rationally not going around towns with a load of people doing Nazi salutes and singing football songs. Seriously - How do you think that's going to help?
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Post by Rico on Jul 28, 2011 12:35:59 GMT
I saw that earlier. Sickening isn't? You've got to realise that he's just a stupid troll though. If you let it wind you up too much then he's won. |
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 28, 2011 12:52:51 GMT
the BNP! hahahahahaha if i had the views of them i wouldnt want anyone in england other than white english! if i had the views of the BNP i wouldnt have a black girlfriend!!!! LMFAO u do talk some s-h-i-t-e!
as i said there are some idiots who claim to be part of the edl, these are the people who nazi salute, these are the people who get kicked out of the edl!!!!!!! singing songs helps as it gets people to notice the hundreds of people taking the march. people can turn there back on the marches and not see it but when singing, people are going to hear it unless there deaf of course but most people aint so thats the way of getting the point across.
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Post by Rico on Jul 28, 2011 13:00:42 GMT
The reason I say that is because your 'they should just f-u-c-k off bk to where they came from' comment is definitely more of a BNP type attitude. Also the EDL originally said they didn't have a problem with immigration, not sure if their official views have changed since then?
That bloke in the daily mail article is 'white english'. Where would you send him back to?
Just because you have a black girlfriend and are maybe not racist towards black people doesn't mean you're not racist towards other groups.
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Post by cufc4life on Jul 28, 2011 13:12:28 GMT
i think ull find the edl probabily do have a problem with immigration because its immigration thats allowing these islamic extremists into this country and its not only a handfull its alot and something has to be done about it.
the bloke in the mail is a total hypicrite who has been brainwashed by islamic extremists, thats exactly what we dont want more of! id chuck the bloke in the sea if i was to see him because hes a total disgrace!!!
as ive said im not racist but patriot!!! it makes me laugh because if any white person mentions anything to do with other races or religions there automatically a racist which is total s-h-i-t-e!! people scream racisism for anything which makes me laugh because 99.9% of the time it aint, its facts and these parties dont like facts so the only defence against it is " oh your racists" total bull s-h-i-t-e!
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Jul 28, 2011 15:41:42 GMT
Well done for not being racist to black people.
However this doesn't mean you are not racist to Islamic people - 99.9999999999999% of them are not extremists.
In the same way that black people are still suspected of being criminals in America because of a very small minority.
Something needs to be done regarding immigration but stopping it completely would be a economic disaster
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