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Post by habbinite on Mar 4, 2016 22:50:44 GMT
If we leave the EU, the effect on research in science and medicine will be SEVERELY affected and compromised in the UK, with no clear access to EU-wide grants which we are the most successful for applying for, alongside Germany. The UK will no longer be a leader in the field - we will be knocked back 10-20 years and will never recover.
So think carefully before you vote out - or don't get ill!
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Post by Sandypants on Mar 5, 2016 3:28:36 GMT
The reason we have wishy washy politics is because we have first past the post as our electoral system. It practically enshrines two-party politics as the status quo. Also makes it much easier for wealthy people or companies to buy influence. And wealthy union bosses, to add some balance... Err, maybe forty years ago! They've been hobbled by every parliament since Thatcher! What's next? Grumbling about the miners? Rations?
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Post by charliecufc on Mar 5, 2016 7:55:45 GMT
If we leave the EU, the effect on research in science and medicine will be SEVERELY affected and compromised in the UK, with no clear access to EU-wide grants which we are the most successful for applying for, alongside Germany. The UK will no longer be a leader in the field - we will be knocked back 10-20 years and will never recover. So think carefully before you vote out - or don't get ill! Hi Dave.
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Post by dincey99 on Mar 5, 2016 11:52:15 GMT
It seems to me that the people who are telling us to stay IN are the same ones who told us to ditch the pound and join the Eurozone.
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Post by Sandypants on Mar 5, 2016 17:09:57 GMT
It seems to me that the people who are telling us to stay IN are the same ones who told us to ditch the pound and join the Eurozone. I'm inclined to disagree. While the pound-ditchers will naturally be EU-inners, they're only a portion of the larger group. Many people can appreciate the vast difference between changing currency and effective independence!
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Post by Lurid on Mar 21, 2016 17:14:17 GMT
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Post by JimboBaggins on Mar 21, 2016 17:20:26 GMT
The EEC was a Bilderberg creation, as is TTIP.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 11:11:40 GMT
It seems to me that the people who are telling us to stay IN are the same ones who told us to ditch the pound and join the Eurozone. Or who thought England would be better off without Scotland but in the EU? Not all opinions on this have to completely overlap. Personally, I see a lot of first hand benefit of EU funding and selfishly, will hopefully by living and working in Europe (propaaa) in the near future, so it's in for me. Scotland can still bugger off if they prefer, mind.
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Mar 28, 2016 11:15:19 GMT
Just saying but Peterborough is the 2nd most eurosceptic place in the UK. As you would expect Cambridge is far more discerning on the issue of Europe. yougov.co.uk/yougov-8545/
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Post by Sandypants on Mar 28, 2016 21:30:35 GMT
Just saying but Peterboring is the 2nd most eurosceptic place in the UK. As you would expect Cambridge is far more discerning on the issue of Europe. yougov.co.uk/yougov-8545/Half of the residents couldn't spell discerning...
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Post by warren62 on Mar 29, 2016 16:26:24 GMT
Just saying but Peterboring is the 2nd most eurosceptic place in the UK. As you would expect Cambridge is far more discerning on the issue of Europe. yougov.co.uk/yougov-8545/Half of the residents couldn't spell discerning... And also Peterborough has a high percentage of Eastern European origin of residents. Is there a correlation at all?
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Post by charliecufc on Apr 14, 2016 14:29:07 GMT
Well, it looks like us Brexiteers are getting trounced on this forum. However, CUFC fans appear to be bucking the trend as the FT tracker (and others) show the Leave camp have been steadily closing the gap on the Remainers since September last year. Are the Remain camp concerned that the British public will turn this into a referendum on the PM given his exploits of late?
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Post by Sandypants on Apr 15, 2016 4:55:49 GMT
Well, it looks like us Brexiteers are getting trounced on this forum. However, CUFC fans appear to be bucking the trend as the FT tracker (and others) show the Leave camp have been steadily closing the gap on the Remainers since September last year. Are the Remain camp concerned that the British public will turn this into a referendum on the PM given his exploits of late? I can only speak for myself, but he's one of many and not even the loudest voice. My only concern is that people are idiots and will vote based on a mail/mirror/sun/guardian columnist whose political nous extends to the raving of the local drunk.
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Apr 15, 2016 21:34:08 GMT
Well, it looks like us Brexiteers are getting trounced on this forum. However, CUFC fans appear to be bucking the trend as the FT tracker (and others) show the Leave camp have been steadily closing the gap on the Remainers since September last year. Are the Remain camp concerned that the British public will turn this into a referendum on the PM given his exploits of late? I can only speak for myself, but he's one of many and not even the loudest voice. My only concern is that people are idiots and will vote based on a mail/mirror/sun/guardian columnist whose political nous extends to the raving of the local drunk. I am concerned that this lame duck PM is screwing up big time. I lost the will to live after the first page of that leaflet. The guys a buffoon. History will judge him to be the worst PM we ever had if he fecks this up. Since the referendum was announced the only message the remain campaign appears to be getting across and improved their position on is that prices will rise if we leave while the leave camp have been bolstered by getting across the message that we will be at less risk of terrorism and there will be less immigration if we leave. Apart from that nothing has changed. The remain camps strongest card is that we will be economically worse off if we leave though they don't appear to be convincing the don't knows on this. The main problem for the remain camp is that only 66% of those who said they want to remain have said they are certain to vote, compared to 75% of those who said they want to leave. I think this may prove crucial. Taking these factors into account the camps are pretty much neck and neck. It's an horrendous thought that voter apathy may well cause us to sleep walking into leaving the EU. whatukthinks.org/eu/has-either-side-made-progress-with-their-arguments-in-the-eu-campaign/whatukthinks.org/eu/a-lot-of-polls-but-still-much-uncertainty/
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Post by MartinL on Apr 15, 2016 23:09:22 GMT
I saw a meme that said "So your telling me a country that won two world wars wouldnt survive on its own outside the EU". Like I said earlier in this thread, there is a lot of people who are in or out without really knowing why.
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