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Post by ilovechadders on Dec 10, 2019 17:29:39 GMT
Labour can make all the promises they like because they have zero chance of having a majority. Even if the Tories don’t quite make it again there will be a minority Conservative government as the DUP would never back Labour.
So what I’m saying there is little or no point debating whatever new vote winning idea Labour come up with today or tomorrow as it’s all pointless. They won’t nationalise everything that moves, they won’t take inheritance away from hard working families, they won’t force people to sell rented homes, the WASPI women will get nowt (rightly), we won’t get free broadband etc etc. Labour just aren’t credible as a party. With a different more centralist leader they might have had a shot but with Vladimir Corbyn at the helm it’s game over.
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Post by lesj on Dec 10, 2019 19:11:37 GMT
So how much is this General Election going to cost us, yes us the voting public. Apparently the last one cost £140m
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Post by lionel on Dec 10, 2019 20:38:06 GMT
Labour can make all the promises they like because they have zero chance of having a majority. Even if the Tories don’t quite make it again there will be a minority Conservative government as the DUP would never back Labour. So what I’m saying there is little or no point debating whatever new vote winning idea Labour come up with today or tomorrow as it’s all pointless. They won’t nationalise everything that moves, they won’t take inheritance away from hard working families, they won’t force people to sell rented homes, the WASPI women will get nowt (rightly), we won’t get free broadband etc etc. Labour just aren’t credible as a party. With a different more centralist leader they might have had a shot but with Vladimir Corbyn at the helm it’s game over. Vladimir Corbyn- now u r just being silly. Boris goes after anybody who challenges his agenda and discredits them. Where have I seen that before?
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Post by ilovechadders on Dec 11, 2019 0:07:03 GMT
Labour can make all the promises they like because they have zero chance of having a majority. Even if the Tories don’t quite make it again there will be a minority Conservative government as the DUP would never back Labour. So what I’m saying there is little or no point debating whatever new vote winning idea Labour come up with today or tomorrow as it’s all pointless. They won’t nationalise everything that moves, they won’t take inheritance away from hard working families, they won’t force people to sell rented homes, the WASPI women will get nowt (rightly), we won’t get free broadband etc etc. Labour just aren’t credible as a party. With a different more centralist leader they might have had a shot but with Vladimir Corbyn at the helm it’s game over. Vladimir Corbyn- now u r just being silly. Boris goes after anybody who challenges his agenda and discredits them. Where have I seen that before? Hardly silly after his attitude and sucking up to the Russians after Salisbury. Boris on the other hand is a mini Trump.
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Post by lionel on Dec 11, 2019 6:00:37 GMT
Vladimir Corbyn- now u r just being silly. Boris goes after anybody who challenges his agenda and discredits them. Where have I seen that before? Hardly silly after his attitude and sucking up to the Russians after Salisbury. Boris on the other hand is a mini Trump. Of course it is silly. What evidence do you actually have to suggest Corbyn has a close relationship with Putin? Mass media manipulated stories do not count.
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Post by ilovechadders on Dec 11, 2019 7:17:34 GMT
Hardly silly after his attitude and sucking up to the Russians after Salisbury. Boris on the other hand is a mini Trump. Of course it is silly. What evidence do you actually have to suggest Corbyn has a close relationship with Putin? Mass media manipulated stories do not count. Did I say he has a close relationship? On policies they are as close as you are going to get but with Salisbury he failed to blame Russia despite the evidence being to the contrary. Has he ever actually admitted yet that they were behind the poisoning? Anyway he is an irrelevance and will be gone when he loses his second General Election in a row. And when he’s fucked off he can flip off again.
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Post by cambcam on Dec 11, 2019 7:50:19 GMT
“Anyway he is an irrelevance and will be gone when he loses his second General Election in a row.”
Being the season of goodwill thought I’d do the decent thing, hold out an olive branch an buy all you lefties a gift. We are all fellow U’s after all.
The really good news is the Jeremy Corbyn duvet sets with matching curtains will be available at 50% discount from the 13th and still be delivered in time for Christmas.
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Post by pappasmurf on Dec 11, 2019 8:13:33 GMT
Apparently Jo Swinson is now more unpopular than Corbyn.......that's going something.
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Post by Rico on Dec 11, 2019 9:16:06 GMT
Of course it is silly. What evidence do you actually have to suggest Corbyn has a close relationship with Putin? Mass media manipulated stories do not count. Did I say he has a close relationship? On policies they are as close as you are going to get but with Salisbury he failed to blame Russia despite the evidence being to the contrary. Has he ever actually admitted yet that they were behind the poisoning? Anyway he is an irrelevance and will be gone when he loses his second General Election in a row. And when he’s fucked off he can flip off again. Close on policies? Wtf? Any examples? Can’t see any similarities with Putin’s Russia being one of the most brutal ultra-capitalist regimes on the planet. The current conservative regime are the ones with close links to Putin and the Russian oligarchs. It’s a matter of public record that Boris and co like to party with them, accept donations from them and obviously the vote leave campaign was tied to them which is why Boris blocked the report into Russian interference into our elections when fellow conservatives were calling it for to be published a few months back.
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Post by neilmc4 on Dec 11, 2019 9:29:08 GMT
"Vladimir Corbyn" eh? Presumably Boris is much more preferable since he only sucks up to the man who is clearly out of his mind , stupefyingly ignorant , and patently unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.
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Post by furiousgeorge on Dec 11, 2019 9:48:19 GMT
So I see big brave Boris, who is definitely going to stand up to world leaders, has now hidden in a fridge to avoid talking to ITV/GMB.
What a truly great leader he wont be. A massive pile of shite stained across our history.
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Post by Jerry1971 on Dec 11, 2019 11:26:59 GMT
Apparently Jo Swinson is now more unpopular than Corbyn.......that's going something. Jo 'Veruca Salt, I'll scweem and scweem until I'm sick' Swinson you mean? I do think this was the election where the Lib Dems may have made some progress. They are the most anti-Brexit party, and as such, it shouldn't have taken much to have positioned themselves as the champions for the 48%. Their fault, and it looks as if they will be heavily punished for it tomorrow, was their disastrous Revoke Policy. They simply didn't understand that whilst 48% voted remain, a huge number of that 48% are also democrats at heart, and respected the outcome of the referendum, and would never have felt comfortable with a simple revocation of Article 50. As such, the Lib Dems had what was really a once in a generation chance, and they've spectacularly blown it. Whilst I am a card carrying Tory, I have voted tactically in the past in Cambridge City, largely as my own party has as much chance of winning the seat at CUFC has of winning the Champions League. I might well have voted for Rod Cantrill to stop Labour, but the Revoke Policy stopped me from even considering that. Had the LD's even stuck with a second referendum policy I'd have been more inclined to vote tactically for them. The silver lining to this particular cloud is that Daniel Zeichner, who I think will win comfortably in Cambridge tomorrow, is a big CUFC fan, and is also a very good constituency MP, so we will at least have a great representative in Westminster despite his rather lousy politics!
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Post by kentishu on Dec 11, 2019 12:10:17 GMT
Apparently Jo Swinson is now more unpopular than Corbyn.......that's going something. Jo 'Veruca Salt, I'll scweem and scweem until I'm sick' Swinson you mean? I do think this was the election where the Lib Dems may have made some progress. They are the most anti-Brexit party, and as such, it shouldn't have taken much to have positioned themselves as the champions for the 48%. Their fault, and it looks as if they will be heavily punished for it tomorrow, was their disastrous Revoke Policy. They simply didn't understand that whilst 48% voted remain, a huge number of that 48% are also democrats at heart, and respected the outcome of the referendum, and would never have felt comfortable with a simple revocation of Article 50. As such, the Lib Dems had what was really a once in a generation chance, and they've spectacularly blown it. Whilst I am a card carrying Tory, I have voted tactically in the past in Cambridge City, largely as my own party has as much chance of winning the seat at CUFC has of winning the Champions League. I might well have voted for Rod Cantrill to stop Labour, but the Revoke Policy stopped me from even considering that. Had the LD's even stuck with a second referendum policy I'd have been more inclined to vote tactically for them. The silver lining to this particular cloud is that Daniel Zeichner, who I think will win comfortably in Cambridge tomorrow, is a big CUFC fan, and is also a very good constituency MP, so we will at least have a great representative in Westminster despite his rather lousy politics! Jo Swinson still has the power to stop Brexit by directing LD voters to vote Lab in named marginals that would otherwise go to the Tories. If she doesn't do that, she should be held personally accountable for Brexit. Anyway, good to see you'll be voting Labour Jerry.
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Post by pappasmurf on Dec 11, 2019 12:10:52 GMT
I would like to thank the Lib Dems in SE Cambridgeshire who have dumped an insane amount of literature in my post box this last month. Something that has irked a lot of folk around these parts but has provided me with an excellent source of paper to light my wood burner every evening. Thanks Jo much appreciated.
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Post by mike_CUFC on Dec 11, 2019 14:11:09 GMT
I would like to thank the Lib Dems in SE Cambridgeshire who have dumped an insane amount of literature in my post box this last month. Something that has irked a lot of folk around these parts but has provided me with an excellent source of paper to light my wood burner every evening. Thanks Jo much appreciated. Same here, we've counted no less than 16 various leaflets/pamphlets from Lib Dem. I think we've had one from the Tories and 2 from an independent (who would have been my protest vote had his leaflet not said that the Tories Brexit was not hard enough!). My wife said we did have Lucy Frazer knock on our door today, which is a first so maybe they are worried about the Lib Dems encroaching on their normal strongholds. Not sure Lucy enjoyed my wife's comments of no point voting for any of you because you all 'piss in the same pot' and 'none of you ever do what you claim to do either'... Actually not sure who I'm going to vote for still just yet but I will definitely vote (and persuade the wife to vote for the one she dislikes the least).
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