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Post by Jerry1971 on Dec 11, 2019 14:40:08 GMT
Anyway, good to see you'll be voting Labour Jerry. Steady on Kentish! I might like Dan Zeichner, but my cross is going into the Blue box tomorrow. As for those commenting about LD literature, I arrived home (I live in the centre of Cambridge) yesterday, to find not less than FIVE LD election communications had arrived, on one day. Two were letters, personally addressed, to my wife and I, and three were regular circulars. I begin to wonder if Screechy Swinson thought that elections were won by the number of leaflets sent, in which case, they'd be on for a landslide. Naturally, I read every one carefully before depositing them in the rubbish bin.
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Post by yorkie on Dec 11, 2019 15:35:47 GMT
Steady on Kentish! I might like Dan Zeichner, but my cross is going into the Blue box tomorrow. As for those commenting about LD literature, I arrived home (I live in the centre of Cambridge) yesterday, to find not less than FIVE LD election communications had arrived, on one day. Two were letters, personally addressed, to my wife and I, and three were regular circulars. I begin to wonder if Screechy Swinson thought that elections were won by the number of leaflets sent, in which case, they'd be on for a landslide. Naturally, I read every one carefully before depositing them in the rubbish bin. I agree re LD leaflets. I reckon it's the most that has ever been posted through my letterbox. That's enough to put anyone off voting for them.
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Post by neilmc4 on Dec 11, 2019 16:07:46 GMT
On a purely personal (non-party political) level I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Daniel Zeichner tomorrow. Friends who still live in Cambridge broadly seem to agree that he's a solid and committed constituency MP plus he is , of course , that rarest of rare creatures - a politician who doesn't just jump on the bandwagon and appear on a balcony when the local football team are winning trophies. Not only is he a ST holder at The Abbey but he also contributes out of his own pocket (unasked) to club initiatives behind the scenes without ever seeking publicity. Also probably the only MP ever to mention the mighty U's in his maiden speech :-)
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Post by pedrosacapuntas on Dec 11, 2019 16:53:38 GMT
Had only two bits of LD literature over the whole campaign. Had eight from Labour, including one with the wrong candidate on it.
One Brexit party leaflet came through too. Some surprisingly decent ideas in there behind the shite, Brexit and bigotry.
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Post by kettlewitch on Dec 11, 2019 16:57:15 GMT
I would like to thank the Lib Dems in SE Cambridgeshire who have dumped an insane amount of literature in my post box this last month. Something that has irked a lot of folk around these parts but has provided me with an excellent source of paper to light my wood burner every evening. Thanks Jo much appreciated. Soon after the election was called we were discussing our SE Cambs candidates with friends and one pointed out that the LD Pippa Heylings did at least offer some hope on environmental issues given her background. Oh the irony that since then, like others, we have been absolutely showered with her leaflets, letters, flyers sometimes 2 or 3 in a day. The electorate in this constituency is almost 85,000 so I shudder to think how many trees we have accumulated between us. By contrast we have had 2 or 3 Tory, 1 from the "independent" who has stood for far-right parties in various other elections and only 1 from Labour. (The Greens stood down for the LDs this time.) I have been following a lot of political commentators on twitter throughout and looking at the projections on various tactical voting sites. The 2017 election result here could be regarded as an anomaly (Lab beat LD into 3rd by quite some margin), but it could also be a true reflection of the changing demographic that we are seeing in Ely. Some of the sites are suggesting that Lab and LD are within 2 or 3 points of each other at this stage and even that their combined share could (just) oust Frazer. Neither seems to stand a chance against her in a three horse race, though, and my gut feeling is that the LDs will regain their 2nd place standing this time. Labour really have not made any efforts here, so it frustrates the heck out of me that they have declined to enter into an arrangement with the Remain Alliance. Sadly I think they will be consigning us to another parliament where we are represented by a Johnson lap-dog with zero connection to the area. I will be voting tactically tomorrow having made an agreement with a colleague from a different constituency that we will vote for each other's parties as they probably stand the better chance. What a thoroughly depressing campaign it has been, and I can't bear to think of the potential outcome. Still, credit to everyone who makes the effort to mark their cross this time whether or not they vote with their heart. I will respect that far more than I will anyone who doesn't bother and then moans about the outcome.
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Post by lesj on Dec 11, 2019 20:31:43 GMT
"Still, credit to everyone who makes the effort to mark their cross this time whether or not they vote with their heart. I will respect that far more than I will anyone who doesn't bother and then moans about the outcome."
I find it's normally the people that never vote that seem to moan the most.
I say to them if they haven't voted they don't have the right to moan as they haven't tried to do anything about it.
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Post by lionel on Dec 12, 2019 4:26:43 GMT
This election has just been depressing. 9 years of austerity, cameron and may and our reward is Boris 'Get it done' Johnson. The slogan does not even make sense.
We could have a guy who didn't like being shown a picture so put the guy's phone in his pocket and then declared he is ready for the interview as an election winning pm!
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Post by spyros on Dec 12, 2019 8:25:51 GMT
Still, credit to everyone who makes the effort to mark their cross this time whether or not they vote with their heart. I will respect that far more than I will anyone who doesn't bother and then moans about the outcome. Well said KW - I would echo this and add that members of this forum have by and large conducted themselves impeccably throughout this debate (my own puerile contributions notwithstanding). Jerry and Cambcam in particular - there is a small vacancy in my heart for a favourite Tory since Alan Clark died, which you just may have managed to fill. Vote safely everyone.
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Post by Jerry1971 on Dec 12, 2019 9:11:11 GMT
Still, credit to everyone who makes the effort to mark their cross this time whether or not they vote with their heart. I will respect that far more than I will anyone who doesn't bother and then moans about the outcome. Well said KW - I would echo this and add that members of this forum have by and large conducted themselves impeccably throughout this debate (my own puerile contributions notwithstanding). Jerry and Cambcam in particular - there is a small vacancy in my heart for a favourite Tory since Alan Clark died, which you just may have managed to fill. Vote safely everyone. Thanks Spyros, that is really kind of you. I was bought up on the strict understanding that whatever the outcome, one should respect democracy and realise that we are all different and see things in very different ways. In reality, Parliament agrees on a lot, but that is the bit never reported. Make sure you all vote today, whomever it is for.
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Post by cambcam on Dec 12, 2019 9:45:20 GMT
Well, yes, err, good luck everyone and may the best man (or woman) win.
Will just say it’s the saddest I’ve ever been going to the polling station. What a tragedy so many of us feel it necessary to vote ‘against’ rather than ‘for’.
Despite digs at Corbyn and you lefties, you have at least been true to your beliefs and there can only be admiration for anyone that wishes to put others first. If the world was an ideal place, I’d be right beside you.
Finally, I hope there is something positive for all of us to take from the result tomorrow. For some of us it is going to be very hard to see where that might be. What’s the saying? - “It’s the hope that kills you”.
Onwards and upwards, keep the faith.
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Post by lesj on Dec 12, 2019 10:27:10 GMT
Well, yes, err, good luck everyone and may the best man (or woman) win. Will just say it’s the saddest I’ve ever been going to the polling station. What a tragedy so many of us feel it necessary to vote ‘against’ rather than ‘for’. Despite digs at Corbyn and you lefties, you have at least been true to your beliefs and there can only be admiration for anyone that wishes to put others first. If the world was an ideal place, I’d be right beside you. Finally, I hope there is something positive for all of us to take from the result tomorrow. For some of us it is going to be very hard to see where that might be. What’s the saying? - “It’s the hope that kills you”. Onwards and upwards, keep the faith. I have to second that. I have been voting for 50 + years , and it's the first time that I have not really been happy with any of them. But yes I have voted.
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Post by pappasmurf on Dec 12, 2019 13:49:09 GMT
Lots of older folk at my local polling station. Very reminiscent of the Brexit referendum. I have a feeling the Conservatives are going to win this quite comfortably.
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Post by lesj on Dec 12, 2019 14:16:12 GMT
I'm older but I certainly didn't vote conservative
You're likely to see more older people during the day as they don't have to work
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Post by Jerry1971 on Dec 12, 2019 14:33:29 GMT
There were loads of people at my Polling Station full stop. I can't actually ever remember it being so busy, and I popped in on the way back from a meeting at 1145 or so, so not exactly a peak time either. I'm really glad actually that so many are engaging with the need to vote.
What is also interesting is that the postal vote has apparently been huge this time, and may even be bigger than the seven million postal votes cast in 2017.
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Post by pedrosacapuntas on Dec 12, 2019 15:32:25 GMT
It's easy to read into these things what you will, an election at this time of year could be a factor to explain these things off the bat.
FWIW it seemed no different to any other vote at my polling station.
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