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Post by cufconuts on Mar 9, 2020 21:14:34 GMT
Barry keeps saying next season we'll have a 'bigger budget' - do we think he means a 'top three proper going for it Mansfield style' or a steady top half one? I’m sure at some point in his journey, Barry is going to pull out of the bag an American investor. He couldn’t do this previously but now as the owner he can invite who he likes onboard, and I‘m sure he’s touted the idea numerous times to his contacts in Seattle. As the now owner, we may never know if he did
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Post by ilovechadders on Mar 9, 2020 21:24:07 GMT
Why does it matter that Bonner was never a professional footballer? It doesn’t seem to have caused Roy Hodgson or Danny Cowley, to name just two, many problems managing.
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Post by joeaustin on Mar 9, 2020 21:28:14 GMT
Why does it matter that Bonner was never a professional footballer? It doesn’t seem to have caused Roy Hodgson or Danny Cowley, to name just two, many problems managing. Both were semi-pro footballers to be fair to them... You don’t have to be a player, but we only have one person in the dugout now who’s played professional football- and that was in goal. I’d fully expect the assistant to be a very highly qualified ex pro.
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Post by ilovechadders on Mar 9, 2020 21:34:08 GMT
Why does it matter that Bonner was never a professional footballer? It doesn’t seem to have caused Roy Hodgson or Danny Cowley, to name just two, many problems managing. Both were semi-pro footballers to be fair to them. You mean they were non-league players. Well in that case there will be thousands of acceptable candidates!
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Post by moosehacker on Mar 9, 2020 21:35:03 GMT
Mixed feelings about this one. First of all, it's worth saying that Mark strikes me as a guy that's going to work very hard with the opportunity he's been given. He's a young coach, without playing experience. To get to where he has is a real achievement and he did a good job with the youth team by all accounts. He also has the backing of former players and coaches, so that counts for something, in my eyes. I think Mark is pretty articulate. He speaks well and with passion without being cliched. His interviews normally offer actual analysis rather than buzzwords, which is refreshing. And as we're operating under a 'Head Coach' model, part of me thinks 'well, it might as well be him': - He's a coach rather than a manager - He knows the players better than anybody - He cares about the club and knows it inside out - He's worked with some of our better youngsters, so is best-placed to incorporate them into the first team and develop them - and fulfil that philosophy - He has the club's best interests at heart and will make decisions accordingly (rather than out of self-preservation) The issue I have, as ever, is the fact that this puts even more responsibility on Ben Strang. Who I like quite a bit less than Mark. Bonner does not have the football connections that a Money, Calderwood or even Derry had. That means we will be heavily reliant on Strang to do our transfer business. And he's got a pretty 'mixed' record, if we're being fair. This strikes me as a very clear 'you coach, I'll sign the players' kind of relationship. Now, maybe that is what we need. We certainly need a clear idea of our best approach and our philosophy. Maybe this appointment gives us that, I'm not sure. What it does mean, however - is there's nowhere for Strang to hide if things go wrong. Bonner strikes me as fairly sensible. He's not going to play silly 352's and play people out of position like Calderwood. He'll keep it to a simple 4411 or 442 and put the best players out that he can. Which in many ways, is all you need. I don't think he's going to be so good that he overachieves with what he has, I also don't think he'll drastically underachieve. What that means though, is we'll only be as good as the squad we assemble... looking at you again, Strang. I have my doubts that a non-player can command the respect of the players in the same way as an ex-pro. But you just have to look at how much the players disliked Calderwood to see it's not an exact science. I'll give Bonz a chance. I desperately want him to do well. He seems like a great fit in so many ways but there are obvious question marks around experience and connections. Be interested to see who his Assistant is. Almost expect it to be Tom Pell, why not commit to it? Exactly this. I hope it works for Mark, but fear it will be more of the same. Cheltenham will now be an interesting game to see how the players respond following limp performances against Carlisle and Orient. The close season’s comings and goings will also be a barometer on what to expect next season.
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Post by joeaustin on Mar 9, 2020 21:38:36 GMT
Both were semi-pro footballers to be fair to them. You mean they were non-league players. Well in that case there will be thousands of acceptable candidates! You missed the rest of my response my friend.
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Post by rossep on Mar 9, 2020 21:55:24 GMT
I'm stunned by the comments on this board today. I've not seen a better option than Mark Bonner present itself amongst all of the realistic candidates. No idea exactly what people want. "Track Record" appointment in Calderwood didn't work. "High profile Pro" Derry didn't work. "great coach" Dunne didn't work. Why not try someone who loves the club and is clearly a high achiever given the fact he's anywhere near a job of this magnitude at his age and with his non playing background.
I just wish some fans would get real. We're a poorly financed club, who cannot compete financially with a lot of clubs in League 2. Our best hope is to build a connected and effective young squad, but aspirationally, Lower League 1 is thw best we can hope for. What exactly do you lot want? Neil Warnock? The man who will probably go to Ipswich on 200k per year. BACK TO REALITY PLEASE EVERYONE
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Post by Doctor-of-Belles-Lettres on Mar 9, 2020 22:05:52 GMT
I'm stunned by the comments on this board today. I've not seen a better option than Mark Bonner present itself amongst all of the realistic candidates. No idea exactly what people want. "Track Record" appointment in Calderwood didn't work. "High profile Pro" Derry didn't work. "great coach" Dunne didn't work. Why not try someone who loves the club and is clearly a high achiever given the fact he's anywhere near a job of this magnitude at his age and with his non playing background. I just wish some fans would get real. We're a poorly financed club, who cannot compete financially with a lot of clubs in League 2. Our best hope is to build a connected and effective young squad, but aspirationally, Lower League 1 is thw best we can hope for. What exactly do you lot want? Neil Warnock? The man who will probably go to Ipswich on 200k per year. BACK TO REALITY PLEASE EVERYONE Well said. No one on the inside of this football club has a bad word to say about Bonner. He's intelligent, resilient and energetic; articulate, committed and informed. He's proven his loyalty and has diligently worked his way up from the bottom. He comes with a palpable emotional investment in Cambridge United. That should mean something to all of us--more than just two duff performances out of seven from some journeymen players. And he knew they were bad and didn't insult us with the usual managerial bullsh*t. Mazel tov, Mark. We go again. United in Endeavour.
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Post by simon on Mar 9, 2020 22:08:11 GMT
As long as people stop calling him Bonz or Bons then I can live with this appointment
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Post by amberline on Mar 9, 2020 22:09:33 GMT
Good to get our usual share of negative reaction. I am sure that Paul Barry would be happy to sell the club to any one of you, then you could make your own appointment. Awwww Polly!
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Post by Jerry1971 on Mar 9, 2020 22:28:32 GMT
As long as people stop calling him Bonz or Bons then I can live with this appointment It seems everyone call Bons Bons or Bonz - even club staff.
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Post by ilovechadders on Mar 9, 2020 22:32:08 GMT
You mean they were non-league players. Well in that case there will be thousands of acceptable candidates! You missed the rest of my response my friend. That's because you edited your post afterwards!
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Post by amberline on Mar 9, 2020 22:32:51 GMT
So a new manager/head coach., whatever you want to call him, who thinks Lewis, O'Neil and that Victor up front are worthy of a shirt. I'm afraid that tells you everything.
You talk and come over very well Mr.Bonner but your frailties were well evident Saturday of last against Orient. Good luck all the same because I really think you are going to need it.
As for our board, full of people who seem to know sweet f a about football, talk is cheap and money buys houses.
Now let ourselves prepare for another uneventful season based on a foundation of BS!
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Post by nutsaboutamber on Mar 9, 2020 22:52:13 GMT
I'm stunned by the comments on this board today. I've not seen a better option than Mark Bonner present itself amongst all of the realistic candidates. No idea exactly what people want. "Track Record" appointment in Calderwood didn't work. "High profile Pro" Derry didn't work. "great coach" Dunne didn't work. Why not try someone who loves the club and is clearly a high achiever given the fact he's anywhere near a job of this magnitude at his age and with his non playing background. I just wish some fans would get real. We're a poorly financed club, who cannot compete financially with a lot of clubs in League 2. Our best hope is to build a connected and effective young squad, but aspirationally, Lower League 1 is thw best we can hope for. What exactly do you lot want? Neil Warnock? The man who will probably go to Ipswich on 200k per year. BACK TO REALITY PLEASE EVERYONE Well said. No one on the inside of this football club has a bad word to say about Bonner. He's intelligent, resilient and energetic; articulate, committed and informed. He's proven his loyalty and has diligently worked his way up from the bottom. He comes with a palpable emotional investment in Cambridge United. That should mean something to all of us--more than just two duff performances out of seven from some journeymen players. And he knew they were bad and didn't insult us with the usual managerial bullsh*t. Mazel tov, Mark. We go again. United in Endeavour. EFF OFF!
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Post by kentishu on Mar 9, 2020 23:08:51 GMT
As long as people stop calling him Bonz or Bons then I can live with this appointment It seems everyone call Bons Bons or Bonz - even club staff. Bons reads far too much like Boris for someone, like me, with poor eyesight. For that reason alone, I agree with Simon.
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