Wingco's Boy
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Post by Wingco's Boy on Jun 14, 2020 17:47:52 GMT
"Please explain your remarks about mass murderers" People responsible for the trade, transport and death of thousands of human beings. These should not be people we honour, imo. I found this pretty interesting. "Statues are not history; rather, its opposite. History is argument; statues brook none. The whole honour of history lies in its contrarian irrepressibility; its brief to puncture the pieties of power, should they belie the truth. Those horrified by the de-pedestalisations of recent days — the Black Lives Matter protests have led to the felling of statues from the slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol to the brutal colonialist Leopold II in Belgian cities — claim that such acts “erase” history. But the contrary is true. It is more usually statues, lording it over civic space, which shut off debate through their invitation to reverence" Full article www.ft.com/content/1117dfb6-8e51-46ec-a74b-59973a96a85a?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6Andrew Robert Peel was not a mass murderer. Hitler was. I think that you weaken your own argument by using such grossly exaggerated language.
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America
Jun 14, 2020 19:11:14 GMT
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Post by Andrewlang on Jun 14, 2020 19:11:14 GMT
"Robert Peel was not a mass murderer. Hitler was. I think that you weaken your own argument by using such grossly exaggerated language"
I haven't spoken of Robert Peel. You significantly weaken your own argument when you have to make stuff up to disagree with.
Andrew
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Wingco's Boy
Reserve team substitute
Posts: 2,130
Favourite CUFC player: Dion Dublin
Favourite CUFC match: Newcastle FAC 3rd round 2022
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Post by Wingco's Boy on Jun 14, 2020 19:24:58 GMT
"Robert Peel was not a mass murderer. Hitler was. I think that you weaken your own argument by using such grossly exaggerated language" I haven't spoken of Robert Peel. You significantly weaken your own argument when you have to make stuff up to disagree with. Andrew Robert Peel is the supposed slave trade icon most targeted by the would-be iconoclasts. Even though it was his dad who had the slave trade links.
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Mark of Carnage
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Jun 14, 2020 19:59:44 GMT
Have to chukle at the Godwin's law moment
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Jun 15, 2020 11:31:38 GMT
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Post by Andrewlang on Jun 15, 2020 11:31:38 GMT
"Robert Peel is the supposed slave trade icon most targeted by the would-be iconoclasts. Even though it was his dad who had the slave trade links"
Indeed. Which is why I didn't mention him as having slave trade links. You seem to be debating a point I never made.
Andrew
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Post by Andrewlang on Jul 23, 2020 12:30:46 GMT
Listening to Trump congratulate his cognitive ability by identifying an elephant correctly, or successfully repeating "Person, women, man, camera tv" is...remarkable.
The presedential race seems to be about either candidate suggesting the other might have dementia. Is this really politics in 2020?
F*ck.
Andrew
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