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Post by vpclub on Apr 25, 2024 6:16:40 GMT
Its where most of the Wooden frames are made for the furniture we all sit on.
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Post by MartinL on Apr 25, 2024 6:17:56 GMT
Taylor deserves criticism for his attitude since Harris went, and for the mistakes that he’s made, that have cost the team. What I completely abhor though is any fan that boos or shouts personal insults at him ( or any U’s player ) at the game. I’ve never done that to any U’s player and never will. I’m also uncomfortable at anything that looks like a witchhunt, and it’s sort of going that way with Taylor. I know that puts me in a minority, but there it is. I’ll join you in that minority. Granted Taylor does seem a bit of a plank but I very much doubt the same vitriol had been flying about had it been Lennett giving the penalty away.
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Post by pollycarpou on Apr 25, 2024 6:24:17 GMT
Nice that the club got the bloke from Hale and Pace to interview him on the pitch.
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Post by artvandelay on Apr 25, 2024 6:40:31 GMT
Taylor deserves criticism for his attitude since Harris went, and for the mistakes that he’s made, that have cost the team. What I completely abhor though is any fan that boos or shouts personal insults at him ( or any U’s player ) at the game. I’ve never done that to any U’s player and never will. I’m also uncomfortable at anything that looks like a witchhunt, and it’s sort of going that way with Taylor. I know that puts me in a minority, but there it is. I’ll join you in that minority. Granted Taylor does seem a bit of a plank but I very much doubt the same vitriol had been flying about had it been Lennett giving the penalty away. Liam Bennett would have had the excuse of tiredness, youth and some goodwill in the bank. I don't think he can be accused of swanning around the pitch, shirking all effort and acting like Veruca Salt. It would have been irritating, certainly, but you are correct that the same vitriol wouldn't have been flying about and with very good reason.
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Post by danielcufc on Apr 25, 2024 7:23:51 GMT
I’ll join you in that minority. Granted Taylor does seem a bit of a plank but I very much doubt the same vitriol had been flying about had it been Lennett giving the penalty away. Liam Bennett would have had the excuse of tiredness, youth and some goodwill in the bank. I don't think he can be accused of swanning around the pitch, shirking all effort and acting like Veruca Salt. It would have been irritating, certainly, but you are correct that the same vitriol wouldn't have been flying about and with very good reason. Liam Bennett with his maturity at 21 years old wouldn't have aimed a petulant shove at an opposition player with what was at stake.
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Post by foolhandy on Apr 25, 2024 7:29:38 GMT
As is seen every game, and I've specifically mentioned on here, Taylor gives off the air of being special, different...not one of the team. Before matches he showboats on his own whilst the others are working together, he watches the warm ups with the odd half hearted contribution as if it's beneath him, he doesn't take part in various t-shirt initiatives the club runs (although I notice his Instagram feed is full of slogan shirts that *he* feels are worthy).
All this is funny, admirable even, if you deliver either effort or quality - and he did a bit at first when all our other forwards were injured and so he were grateful for anything resembling a goal scorer. But very quickly it's turned into billy-big-bollocks matched with half-arsed ambling around/moaning at his team mates when they're busting a gut and he's stood watching/getting sent off/giving away a penalty/rising to the bait and slagging people on social media etc.
Lennett, as a player and a member of the team, is very much not like this. And so we'd have let him off an odd cock-up.
As has also been said, there's barely a good word to be heard on Taylor from any of his ex-clubs. I think we know why. I don't boo our players, I don't get angry with them or hate them, but I am just tired of him now and will be content when he leaves.
I'm typing all this and it occurs to me that he probably reads all this (although he'd deny it of of course) and gets off on it. Controversy and being talked about at all costs is no doubt his thing. So like his ilk in other areas of society, I shall from now on not give him the oxygen of comment. The possibility of him having some 'me time' to us getting riled by him is not something I want to contribute to further.
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Post by cornishu on Apr 25, 2024 8:32:47 GMT
VP is absolutely correct as to the derivation of ‘Chairboys’. The area had lots of rich woods which led to it becoming the centre for UK furniture. The term bodging also comes from here. Greenwood furniture was turned and made by skilled craftsmen. It wasn’t fine furniture but it was still skilled work, termed bodging. Hence the term we use today, which is not technically correct. Here hoping we bodge it on Saturday. We don’t necessarily need a fine finish just a good result.
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Apr 25, 2024 12:19:24 GMT
Given the disruption and make-shift nature of the team, combined with Wycombe being something of a bogey team for us, it was entirely understandable that we were more than a little ropey in the first 15-20mins. After that, though, I thought we grew into the game reasonably well. And yet around me, we had the usual booing our own players from 5 minutes onwards. What is it about football that means some people think they can turn up and dole abuse out for 90 minutes?
It says a lot that I think a large chunk of our collective frustration actually comes from so nearly having earnt the win, which suggests we weren't as bad as some are making out.
Mannion - couldn't really fault him, other than maybe a few kicks were a little tame. Gibbons - might not be the most technically gifted, but he was everywhere and won loads of duals. Digby - did an admirable job in an unfamiliar role. Okedina - grew into it, understandable given his lack of match action recently. Lennett - was, well Lennett. Kachunga - largely anonymous first half, but so much better and more involved after the break. I was particularly impressed he tried to pick it up in dangerous areas and be brave on the ball. Did it work always, nah. Was it frustrating at times, definitely. But I'd rather see a player try to play that way, than the alternative which lacks any sort of creativity. Cousins - got an awful lot of stick, and did give the ball away on occasion, but I'd question how many times that was solely his fault. On a lot of those occasions he was isolated and played into trouble by a teammate, and yet he pretty much held the midfield together by himself, especially for large parts of the first half. Maybe I'm odd, but I particularly like how he tries to use the ball though. For me he's always trying to give the ball to a teammate so that they can come onto it and use it straight away. Sounds obvious, but plenty of players don't seem to manage that. KaiKai, ok in fits and starts. Probably did more work than I realised, but fairly anonymous for me in the main, and didn't seem to grow into it the way Kachunga did. Brophy - one of his best games in a while, for me. He looked quite comfortable in the end. Ahadme - didn't have his best game, but showed masses of heart. I counted three or four times he attempted to go for the first and second balls, when others would have given up. Bonne - wasn't the greatest, but I think he did a lot more than people seem to recognise. He spent a lot of time making runs that didn't work out, or trying to occupy one of the centrebacks. Unfortunately, because he doesn't cover the ground like others, he becomes a target for criticism.
Fej and Jack - no real impact, although Fej did at least attempt to get stuck in and have a wrestling match with their centre backs. Both look liked they're short on fitness and confidence. Taylor - there's just something about him that makes it easy to criticise him, but I don't think he was quite as bad as the abuse he's getting. He's never going to be the guy covering regular 30 yard sprints and jumping for every header like Gassan, no point expecting otherwise. As for the pen, I've watched the sky replays, and can only say that maybe he touched their player, but it hardly looked like a stonewaller. There was far worse contact all game elsewhere, without any form of punishment. I don't expect him to be here next season, but that's mostly as I don't see how he fits into what a L1 team at our level is trying to do/become.
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Post by Jerry1971 on Apr 25, 2024 12:25:19 GMT
As is seen every game, and I've specifically mentioned on here, Taylor gives off the air of being special, different...not one of the team. Before matches he showboats on his own whilst the others are working together, he watches the warm ups with the odd half hearted contribution as if it's beneath him, he doesn't take part in various t-shirt initiatives the club runs (although I notice his Instagram feed is full of slogan shirts that *he* feels are worthy). All this is funny, admirable even, if you deliver either effort or quality - and he did a bit at first when all our other forwards were injured and so he were grateful for anything resembling a goal scorer. But very quickly it's turned into billy-big-bollocks matched with half-arsed ambling around/moaning at his team mates when they're busting a gut and he's stood watching/getting sent off/giving away a penalty/rising to the bait and slagging people on social media etc. Lennett, as a player and a member of the team, is very much not like this. And so we'd have let him off an odd cock-up. As has also been said, there's barely a good word to be heard on Taylor from any of his ex-clubs. I think we know why. I don't boo our players, I don't get angry with them or hate them, but I am just tired of him now and will be content when he leaves. I'm typing all this and it occurs to me that he probably reads all this (although he'd deny it of of course) and gets off on it. Controversy and being talked about at all costs is no doubt his thing. So like his ilk in other areas of society, I shall from now on not give him the oxygen of comment. The possibility of him having some 'me time' to us getting riled by him is not something I want to contribute to further. If anyone on here is a Ted Lasso fan (I am), then in the form of Lyle Taylor I proudly present to you.... Zava.
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Post by Andrewlang on Apr 25, 2024 12:32:54 GMT
Ted Lasso!? The humour was silly, it was tacky, saccharine and incredibly woke.
Of course I'm a fan.
Andrew
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Post by flouncingarburyboy on Apr 25, 2024 12:36:00 GMT
Given the disruption and make-shift nature of the team, combined with Wycombe being something of a bogey team for us, it was entirely understandable that we were more than a little ropey in the first 15-20mins. After that, though, I thought we grew into the game reasonably well. And yet around me, we had the usual booing our own players from 5 minutes onwards. What is it about football that means some people think they can turn up and dole abuse out for 90 minutes? It says a lot that I think a large chunk of our collective frustration actually comes from so nearly having earnt the win, which suggests we weren't as bad as some are making out. Mannion - couldn't really fault him, other than maybe a few kicks were a little tame. Gibbons - might not be the most technically gifted, but he was everywhere and won loads of duals. Digby - did an admirable job in an unfamiliar role. Okedina - grew into it, understandable given his lack of match action recently. Lennett - was, well Lennett. Kachunga - largely anonymous first half, but so much better and more involved after the break. I was particularly impressed he tried to pick it up in dangerous areas and be brave on the ball. Did it work always, nah. Was it frustrating at times, definitely. But I'd rather see a player try to play that way, than the alternative which lacks any sort of creativity. Cousins - got an awful lot of stick, and did give the ball away on occasion, but I'd question how many times that was solely his fault. On a lot of those occasions he was isolated and played into trouble by a teammate, and yet he pretty much held the midfield together by himself, especially for large parts of the first half. Maybe I'm odd, but I particularly like how he tries to use the ball though. For me he's always trying to give the ball to a teammate so that they can come onto it and use it straight away. Sounds obvious, but plenty of players don't seem to manage that. KaiKai, ok in fits and starts. Probably did more work than I realised, but fairly anonymous for me in the main, and didn't seem to grow into it the way Kachunga did. Brophy - one of his best games in a while, for me. He looked quite comfortable in the end. Ahadme - didn't have his best game, but showed masses of heart. I counted three or four times he attempted to go for the first and second balls, when others would have given up. Bonne - wasn't the greatest, but I think he did a lot more than people seem to recognise. He spent a lot of time making runs that didn't work out, or trying to occupy one of the centrebacks. Unfortunately, because he doesn't cover the ground like others, he becomes a target for criticism. Fej and Jack - no real impact, although Fej did at least attempt to get stuck in and have a wrestling match with their centre backs. Both look liked they're short on fitness and confidence. Taylor - there's just something about him that makes it easy to criticise him, but I don't think he was quite as bad as the abuse he's getting. He's never going to be the guy covering regular 30 yard sprints and jumping for every header like Gassan, no point expecting otherwise. As for the pen, I've watched the sky replays, and can only say that maybe he touched their player, but it hardly looked like a stonewaller. There was far worse contact all game elsewhere, without any form of punishment. I don't expect him to be here next season, but that's mostly as I don't see how he fits into what a L1 team at our level is trying to do/become. Enjoyed your analysis Mike and lots I agree with there. Also I'd give credit to Monk. I know he's taken a bit of stick for the timing and decision-making regarding the substitutions but, looking at how he set us up for kick off, there are lots of reasons to be cheerful. From the off he was dealing with a defensive line ravaged by sickness and injury. I'd imagine he didn't have that much preparation time. His tactical solution showed a fair bit of innovation and risk and when I saw the starting XI I winced. After about 15 mins though I settled as I saw what he was trying to do. And, by and large, it worked. I think lots of the fan frustration from Tuesday night comes from the fact that we were less than 20 minutes from safety by taking 3 points off Wycombe. On a Tuesday! A few days reflection tells me it was a good result.
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Post by Sandypants on Apr 25, 2024 12:48:02 GMT
Given the disruption and make-shift nature of the team, combined with Wycombe being something of a bogey team for us, it was entirely understandable that we were more than a little ropey in the first 15-20mins. After that, though, I thought we grew into the game reasonably well. And yet around me, we had the usual booing our own players from 5 minutes onwards. What is it about football that means some people think they can turn up and dole abuse out for 90 minutes? It says a lot that I think a large chunk of our collective frustration actually comes from so nearly having earnt the win, which suggests we weren't as bad as some are making out. Mannion - couldn't really fault him, other than maybe a few kicks were a little tame. Gibbons - might not be the most technically gifted, but he was everywhere and won loads of duals. Digby - did an admirable job in an unfamiliar role. Okedina - grew into it, understandable given his lack of match action recently. Lennett - was, well Lennett. Kachunga - largely anonymous first half, but so much better and more involved after the break. I was particularly impressed he tried to pick it up in dangerous areas and be brave on the ball. Did it work always, nah. Was it frustrating at times, definitely. But I'd rather see a player try to play that way, than the alternative which lacks any sort of creativity. Cousins - got an awful lot of stick, and did give the ball away on occasion, but I'd question how many times that was solely his fault. On a lot of those occasions he was isolated and played into trouble by a teammate, and yet he pretty much held the midfield together by himself, especially for large parts of the first half. Maybe I'm odd, but I particularly like how he tries to use the ball though. For me he's always trying to give the ball to a teammate so that they can come onto it and use it straight away. Sounds obvious, but plenty of players don't seem to manage that. KaiKai, ok in fits and starts. Probably did more work than I realised, but fairly anonymous for me in the main, and didn't seem to grow into it the way Kachunga did. Brophy - one of his best games in a while, for me. He looked quite comfortable in the end. Ahadme - didn't have his best game, but showed masses of heart. I counted three or four times he attempted to go for the first and second balls, when others would have given up. Bonne - wasn't the greatest, but I think he did a lot more than people seem to recognise. He spent a lot of time making runs that didn't work out, or trying to occupy one of the centrebacks. Unfortunately, because he doesn't cover the ground like others, he becomes a target for criticism. Fej and Jack - no real impact, although Fej did at least attempt to get stuck in and have a wrestling match with their centre backs. Both look liked they're short on fitness and confidence. Taylor - there's just something about him that makes it easy to criticise him, but I don't think he was quite as bad as the abuse he's getting. He's never going to be the guy covering regular 30 yard sprints and jumping for every header like Gassan, no point expecting otherwise. As for the pen, I've watched the sky replays, and can only say that maybe he touched their player, but it hardly looked like a stonewaller. There was far worse contact all game elsewhere, without any form of punishment. I don't expect him to be here next season, but that's mostly as I don't see how he fits into what a L1 team at our level is trying to do/become. Speaking of the sky highlights: who was it that hauled down their player in the penalty area earlier in the game? That could've gone badly.
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Post by Mike Osbourn on Apr 25, 2024 12:49:05 GMT
Gibbons. Not sure he exactly hauled him down though. That was Vokes doing his usual job of getting the first contact in.
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Post by mike_CUFC on Apr 25, 2024 12:52:46 GMT
Given the disruption and make-shift nature of the team, combined with Wycombe being something of a bogey team for us, it was entirely understandable that we were more than a little ropey in the first 15-20mins. After that, though, I thought we grew into the game reasonably well. And yet around me, we had the usual booing our own players from 5 minutes onwards. What is it about football that means some people think they can turn up and dole abuse out for 90 minutes? It says a lot that I think a large chunk of our collective frustration actually comes from so nearly having earnt the win, which suggests we weren't as bad as some are making out. Mannion - couldn't really fault him, other than maybe a few kicks were a little tame. Gibbons - might not be the most technically gifted, but he was everywhere and won loads of duals. Digby - did an admirable job in an unfamiliar role. Okedina - grew into it, understandable given his lack of match action recently. Lennett - was, well Lennett. Kachunga - largely anonymous first half, but so much better and more involved after the break. I was particularly impressed he tried to pick it up in dangerous areas and be brave on the ball. Did it work always, nah. Was it frustrating at times, definitely. But I'd rather see a player try to play that way, than the alternative which lacks any sort of creativity. Cousins - got an awful lot of stick, and did give the ball away on occasion, but I'd question how many times that was solely his fault. On a lot of those occasions he was isolated and played into trouble by a teammate, and yet he pretty much held the midfield together by himself, especially for large parts of the first half. Maybe I'm odd, but I particularly like how he tries to use the ball though. For me he's always trying to give the ball to a teammate so that they can come onto it and use it straight away. Sounds obvious, but plenty of players don't seem to manage that. KaiKai, ok in fits and starts. Probably did more work than I realised, but fairly anonymous for me in the main, and didn't seem to grow into it the way Kachunga did. Brophy - one of his best games in a while, for me. He looked quite comfortable in the end. Ahadme - didn't have his best game, but showed masses of heart. I counted three or four times he attempted to go for the first and second balls, when others would have given up. Bonne - wasn't the greatest, but I think he did a lot more than people seem to recognise. He spent a lot of time making runs that didn't work out, or trying to occupy one of the centrebacks. Unfortunately, because he doesn't cover the ground like others, he becomes a target for criticism. Fej and Jack - no real impact, although Fej did at least attempt to get stuck in and have a wrestling match with their centre backs. Both look liked they're short on fitness and confidence. Taylor - there's just something about him that makes it easy to criticise him, but I don't think he was quite as bad as the abuse he's getting. He's never going to be the guy covering regular 30 yard sprints and jumping for every header like Gassan, no point expecting otherwise. As for the pen, I've watched the sky replays, and can only say that maybe he touched their player, but it hardly looked like a stonewaller. There was far worse contact all game elsewhere, without any form of punishment. I don't expect him to be here next season, but that's mostly as I don't see how he fits into what a L1 team at our level is trying to do/become. Well summed up Mike, I too noticed a number of fans getting on Brophy/Cousins/Gibbons back from almost the first whistle. One guy standing behind me lays into Brophy every game (very recognisable voice) if he doesn't do exactly as he'd expect, it'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic. I've not been Cousins biggest fan but as you say he was isolated at times and like Kachunga, he tried to make things happen. Some of our fans just want the ball to always be passed forwards and in a perfect way like tika-taka. But it's often the '1 in 10' balls that split a defence/midfield wide open so of course they aren't going to work every time but that's how chances are created. Look at Derby's breakaway goal against us on Saturday. Most of the time that either goes too long/ comes up short or is intercepted but it worked and split our defence open. I still think we need a huge clearout over the Summer of most of these players but I agree that most of them actually had very good games on Tuesday night.
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Post by mike_CUFC on Apr 25, 2024 12:53:40 GMT
Gibbons. Not sure he exactly hauled him down though. That was Vokes doing his usual job of getting the first contact in. I was sure that should have been given as a foul to us as well, never a pen.
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