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Post by cambcam on Nov 28, 2011 17:34:08 GMT
It may be the wrong thing to be thinking about at the moment, but something doesn't add up. A man seemingly with the world at his feet, who was on national media in Football Focus talking about future hopes for Wales and about his family, then hangs himself a matter of hours later. Was there an event inbetween that triggered this? Or was he masking something during Football Focus? People have been very quick to cite depression as the reason without anything to validate this, but it is a likely scenario. Regardless, it's a tragedy and a massive loss to football. I hope his family are properly looked after. I hope that sort of speculation ends right there. I for one have no interest if there was any `trigger` or if he was `masking something`. It`s an appalling situation for his family and I hope they are left alone to deal with it privately. Sadly there will be some grubby people digging for all they are worth.
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Post by Russ Greaves on Nov 28, 2011 18:52:33 GMT
Some strong and credible suggestions Gary Speed was gay and this was to be revealed against his will.
Speculation will always be rife when a seemingly happy man takes his life. When everybody is asking the question 'why?' it's ridiculous to say people shouldn't seek answers.
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Post by edhaygarth on Nov 28, 2011 18:56:21 GMT
I don't think anyone is speculating cambcam. People are struggling with the concept that they saw someone on TV hours before who seemed happy, positive and talking about the future. Its only natural for people to wonder what might have gone on in-between, if only to make sense of a dark and horrible situation.
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Post by Denton on Nov 28, 2011 18:59:09 GMT
personally i think he may of been killed, made to look like a suicide, as people were saying he was talking about the future alot and his dream of getting wales to the 2014 world cup. something isn't right with that just another view point really
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Post by pencilpusher on Nov 28, 2011 19:03:15 GMT
personally i think he may of been killed, made to look like a suicide, as people were saying he was talking about the future alot and his dream of getting wales to the 2014 world cup. something isn't right with that just another view point really Oh, give it a rest. You have been watching too much Cagney and Lacey mate.
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Nov 28, 2011 19:04:08 GMT
If the media is behind this, I will not be surprised one bit. It's sad that our country feels the need to publicise stories about 'celebrity's' private lives and that people will buy a paper/go on a website for the story. Whether the "story" is frowned upon (Ryan Giggs) or perfectly respectable (Being homosexual) it should not be published. I respect a lot of journalists but some need to think about their actions and if they were Ryan Giggs or Gary Speed or whoever, would they want their story plastered all over the papers.
If what Russ says is true, I think it highlights, as I'm sure all of you witness every day, that homophobia is still rife and is equal to in importance as racism. However I doubt a homophobia case would go viral like the tram video.
RIP Gary Speed and let's remember that just because they are rich and famous, footballers are people too, they have feelings, they have friends, and they have family.
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Post by cambcam on Nov 28, 2011 19:46:07 GMT
Some strong and credible suggestions Gary Speed was gay and this was to be revealed against his will. Speculation will always be rife when a seemingly happy man takes his life. When everybody is asking the question 'why?' it's ridiculous to say people shouldn't seek answers. Fair comment. Perhaps I`m just overly sensitive and cynical in the belief that some people may enjoy a good bit of gossip. Some of the nonsense already written here suggests I might not be too far off the mark.
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Post by imp566 on Nov 28, 2011 19:50:11 GMT
Do you really think that with all the attention the Press is getting at them moment that they would dare to stoop so low at this moment in time? I would hope not. But if they are, then I would hope the full force of justice is brought down on those responsible.
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Post by cambcam on Nov 28, 2011 19:57:55 GMT
Erm, yes.
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Post by Bendigeidfran on Nov 28, 2011 20:00:49 GMT
I'm not shocked anymore at just how depraved and void of any human emotion the British press are. Wouldn't suprise me if the story is true. It's a tragedy that in this day and age someone's sexuality is still deemed a credible 'shocking' story.
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Post by ChrisVessey on Nov 28, 2011 20:07:28 GMT
I guess with him being a respectable and popular figure in football who is married with kids, who happens to be gay, he is the gutter press' dream for a bit of scandal.
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Post by imp566 on Nov 28, 2011 20:11:55 GMT
Its still all speculation - none of us knows if this is the truth or not. Which is just as bad as the Press jumping all over it.
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Post by oliworth on Nov 28, 2011 20:15:54 GMT
Some strong and credible suggestions Gary Speed was gay and this was to be revealed against his will. Where are these suggestions Russ, and which credible source do they come from?
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Post by cambcam on Nov 28, 2011 20:16:00 GMT
I guess with him being a respectable and popular figure in football who is married with kids, who happens to be gay, he is the gutter press' dream for a bit of scandal. Absolutely. It just pains me to think there are people salivating at the prospect that this will be as murky as possible. He just seemed one of the good guys, maybe that`s why it`s hitting home a bit harder than usual.
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Post by Russ Greaves on Nov 28, 2011 20:35:30 GMT
It wouldn't take much to find out how widespread these rumours are on the internet, Oli.
I can't say where other people got their information from, and I won't say where I got mine from.
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