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Post by squeeze. on Aug 31, 2024 20:44:32 GMT
Look I don’t know, my point is that our recruitment since we have been in League One has been horrendous. We’ve signed journeymen & players with baggage, we’ve failed to sign players with sell on value & our use of the loan market has been poor. I’ve said it before that I don’t want us to be signing big sexy names but boxing more clever. Accrington, Col U, Crewe & AFC Wimbledon as examples have all been worse than us in this time period but sold several players each for significant fees. We live in a lovely part of the country, got a decent catchment & a growing support whilst the city has ridiculous money in it. We don’t use Non-League & only a couple of our FA Youth Cup players are coming through. We’ve seen 12 players come in & again the better ones are on loan deals. We just seem to be a club with a complete lack of a plan or awareness of a bigger picture whilst intent on telling fans that it’s because of the budget and size of the club. The common denominator in all of that shite recruitment is Strang. Sorry for the rant. I agree we seem pretty rubbish at selling, The only flaw in this, is you’re talking up 4 sides who failed miserable when it came to sticking around and being a league 1 club. Whilst I don’t think our recruitment team cover themselves in glory for a while, I do think that we are never going to come close to progressing on the pitch until there is some huge (quite potentially unsustainable) investment in the playing squad. Which given the club blueprint I just can’t see happening. Those lot up the road seem to do wonders buying and selling but they also have the initial finances to go and do it. I genuinely can’t see more than 3/4 clubs having smaller wages than us. The defensively calamities are whole heartedly on the management team at the moment and the way we’re setting up and whilst better players would give us perhaps some more of a chance, i don’t think its all just down to bad recruitment. Point taken. My point is they are all in the league below us so we have as much to offer so there’s no reason we couldn’t do it. Teams in this league? Let’s look at Exeter City, Burton Albion, Northampton Town & Wycombe Wanderers. All similar size. Exeter are fan run & excel at producing & selling on. Wycombe & Burton actually managed to get promoted. Northampton Town are now establishing themselves & upwardly mobile. Lincoln City, could throw them in. Who tells me we aren’t on the same level as those guys? Point is we have a platform, well run as any off the pitch with a new training facility & a ground development in the works. Add that to Cambridge as a place. Enough there to sell to players on their way up. I think fans see the money being thrown around & just think that’s all there is to succeeding in modern football. Simply not true. Anyway, I’m banging my head against a wall on here having these conversations. Fingers crossed things turn.
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Post by squeeze. on Aug 31, 2024 20:51:40 GMT
We signed loads of sellable players while in League 2 and initially in this division but decided to keep them rather than cash in. I struggle to believe that Strang suddenly forgot what was successful, and rather the limiting factors are much more limiting than some seem to think. Amber tinted glasses if you think that a cheat code in Wes & a generational season from Mullin didn’t have a massive impact on us going up. Would love to know who all these players we could have sold on were, there’s 4 or 5 at best.
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Post by ChrisVessey on Aug 31, 2024 20:54:05 GMT
In my view it feels like Strang is out of his depth. Does anyone know whether he has recruitment experience at this level before United? For me it's time for a change as all other areas have changed and we are still seeing the same issues. He left us to go to Norwich and was even more out of his depth with us, was quickly shoved out of the back door and somehow talked his way back in with us.
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Post by milesfenton on Aug 31, 2024 20:57:12 GMT
We signed loads of sellable players while in League 2 and initially in this division but decided to keep them rather than cash in. I struggle to believe that Strang suddenly forgot what was successful, and rather the limiting factors are much more limiting than some seem to think. Amber tinted glasses if you think that a cheat code in Wes & a generational season from Mullin didn’t have a massive impact on us going up. Would love to know who all these players we could have sold on were, there’s 4 or 5 at best. Of course they had an impact - they were two players Strang signed though so surely count in his favour?
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Post by squeeze. on Aug 31, 2024 21:05:12 GMT
Amber tinted glasses if you think that a cheat code in Wes & a generational season from Mullin didn’t have a massive impact on us going up. Would love to know who all these players we could have sold on were, there’s 4 or 5 at best. Of course they had an impact - they were two players Strang signed though so surely count in his favour? In his favour to the point Wes only came back to us after Australia was a disaster. Mullin, of course. Failure to build on those in the 4 years since has clouded things, mind. This isn’t all literally on him as an individual, by the way. I’m not making him out to be the only guy involved in policy. It’s a recruitment issue as a whole, whoever that involves. & in response to the earlier poster, dickheads is possibly crass but I reckon if you had several departments of an organisation doing great things but being held back by one or two other departments, they wouldn’t be looked upon favourably by the supporters of said organisation.
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Post by funkymonk on Aug 31, 2024 21:32:24 GMT
Not here for the inquest, but is it only two wins in hoe many under funky monk?
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Post by joe77 on Aug 31, 2024 21:37:06 GMT
Not here for the inquest, but is it only two wins in hoe many under funky monk? 15 in the league, I believe. 16 if you count the league cup tie.
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Aug 31, 2024 21:51:34 GMT
We signed loads of sellable players while in League 2 and initially in this division but decided to keep them rather than cash in. I struggle to believe that Strang suddenly forgot what was successful, and rather the limiting factors are much more limiting than some seem to think. Amber tinted glasses if you think that a cheat code in Wes & a generational season from Mullin didn’t have a massive impact on us going up. Would love to know who all these players we could have sold on were, there’s 4 or 5 at best. Didn't we turn down bids for Tracey, Knibbs and Smith. Mitov surely would have attracted offers and I'd imagine Ironside at times too. Iredale and Knoyle would have been had they been under contract. I'm not denying the quality (relative to our position) since then has dropped, just believe there must be more obvious reason as it doesn't make sense that someone who had two incredible summers was just lucky twice and then forgot what he was doing.
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Post by lionel on Aug 31, 2024 23:32:29 GMT
So when is it okay to say we need to change our manager?
The squad personal isn't going to change and they are not the right players to implement Monk's preferred style.
This feels like a relationship which does not have legs.
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Post by Jerry1971 on Sept 1, 2024 5:35:14 GMT
We actually haven’t won a game since Easter Monday.
I like Monk, and like that he’s trying to give us a new style of play, one which should suit us in this league. Trouble is, we have to start winning games, and quickly. The longer it goes on the worse things will be from a morale perspective, both on the pitch and in the stands.
I always felt it would take time for the new style to work, but what is an appropriate amount of time?
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Post by badders12 on Sept 1, 2024 8:19:30 GMT
We actually haven’t won a game since Easter Monday. I like Monk, and like that he’s trying to give us a new style of play, one which should suit us in this league. Trouble is, we have to start winning games, and quickly. The longer it goes on the worse things will be from a morale perspective, both on the pitch and in the stands. I always felt it would take time for the new style to work, but what is an appropriate amount of time? I don’t know the answer to that but 3 managers last season was not good for the club and thinking of changing the manager sometime soon doesn’t bear thinking about . If the club and the manager are one in this is the right way to go then Monk is the right manager to do it . Whether we have the right players to play this way is down to the recruitment process , how deep our pockets are and what everyone club out there is doing . You could argue we were unlucky with our targets , injuries etc but that’s just football,
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Post by lesj on Sept 1, 2024 8:27:03 GMT
Will Gardner, Loft & Watts likely to be ready to get minutes after the break ?
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Sept 1, 2024 8:31:31 GMT
We've only got 3 games in September but if we don't win any surely he has to go. No win in 13 with no prior goodwill in the bank surely is stackable numbers.
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Post by lesj on Sept 1, 2024 8:33:11 GMT
But how much would it cost to get rid of him so early ?
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Post by foolhandy on Sept 1, 2024 8:34:31 GMT
We actually haven’t won a game since Easter Monday. I like Monk, and like that he’s trying to give us a new style of play, one which should suit us in this league. Trouble is, we have to start winning games, and quickly. The longer it goes on the worse things will be from a morale perspective, both on the pitch and in the stands. I always felt it would take time for the new style to work, but what is an appropriate amount of time? I don’t know the answer to that but 3 managers last season was not good for the club and thinking of changing the manager sometime soon doesn’t bear thinking about . If the club and the manager are one in this is the right way to go then Monk is the right manager to do it . Whether we have the right players to play this way is down to the recruitment process , how deep our pockets are and what everyone club out there is doing . You could argue we were unlucky with our targets , injuries etc but that’s just football, As I've said before, I think this is going to work, and he needs to be given time. That said, if it hasn't clicked* by Christmas then we have to look at a change to stay up. *Clicked = Same style with fewer mistakes, more goals, and therefore some points.
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