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Post by martinjohn on Mar 30, 2024 22:27:27 GMT
The goalkeeper situation is a contentious one, both are capable keepers, but Stevens was brought in as No1, and has been trusted by all 3 managers to hold that position. Mannion now has the chance to keep the jersey until the end of the season, which if he performs as well as he did on Friday, he should do that. I see some very clear similarities to Dimi and Callum Burton, at the end of that season it was Burton who was released, wonder if the same will happen this time? I would argue, probably to a bit of backlash, that Mannion is a better bet keeper overall than Mitov. Mitov was prone to flapping at crosses and being way out of position. That said, he was one heck of a shot stopper.. and Newcastle. Hope Mannion now nails down number 1. Since I've been a U, he's one of the best players we've had to never nail down a place in the starting 11.
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Post by funkymonk on Mar 30, 2024 22:30:22 GMT
Personaly, I blame Mikel Arteta for our goalkeeping situation.
And why won't he stay in his technical area? It's there for a reason, Andy.
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Post by Jonah on Mar 30, 2024 22:38:17 GMT
I have never rated Stevens. I don't think Mannion is a massive upgrade but I also don't understand the number of people in previous match threads saying Stevens wasn't a major problem. With goalkeepers it's a like for like change, every error is potentially game changing and Stevens is full of errors both large and small
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Post by imp566 on Mar 31, 2024 8:01:43 GMT
The goalkeeper situation is a contentious one, both are capable keepers, but Stevens was brought in as No1, and has been trusted by all 3 managers to hold that position. Mannion now has the chance to keep the jersey until the end of the season, which if he performs as well as he did on Friday, he should do that. I see some very clear similarities to Dimi and Callum Burton, at the end of that season it was Burton who was released, wonder if the same will happen this time? I would argue, probably to a bit of backlash, that Mannion is a better bet keeper overall than Mitov. Mitov was prone to flapping at crosses and being way out of position. That said, he was one heck of a shot stopper.. and Newcastle. Hope Mannion now nails down number 1. Since I've been a U, he's one of the best players we've had to never nail down a place in the starting 11. So much about that I disagree with, but I'm not going to bite, I'm sure you are just dangling (a lot of!) bait!
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Post by Denton on Mar 31, 2024 8:12:41 GMT
I don't know if he's better than Mitov or Stevens but he is the best back up keeper we've had
So whilst he's here and our current keeper can't catch a cold, let's use him
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Post by camloyal on Mar 31, 2024 8:28:51 GMT
I don't know if he's better than Mitov or Stevens but he is the best back up keeper we've had Says someone who doesn't recall the Jon Sheffield and Jon Filan era. We were spoiled.
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Post by danielcufc on Mar 31, 2024 9:53:00 GMT
I have never rated Stevens. I don't think Mannion is a massive upgrade but I also don't understand the number of people in previous match threads saying Stevens wasn't a major problem. With goalkeepers it's a like for like change, every error is potentially game changing and Stevens is full of errors both large and small Stevens has made too many errors this season easily into double figures. That's way too many for a first choice keeper. Keepers do make mistakes - Mannion did at home to Barnsley earlier in the season, their keeper did on Friday, Mitov made one or two. He's cost us in too many games and is the player that Oxford & Vale fans said we were getting. The fact that he couldn't get into a poor Oxford side and was then loaned to another who went on an awful run should have posed questions in our recruitment process.
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Post by martinjohn on Mar 31, 2024 9:55:24 GMT
I would argue, probably to a bit of backlash, that Mannion is a better bet keeper overall than Mitov. Mitov was prone to flapping at crosses and being way out of position. That said, he was one heck of a shot stopper.. and Newcastle. Hope Mannion now nails down number 1. Since I've been a U, he's one of the best players we've had to never nail down a place in the starting 11. So much about that I disagree with, but I'm not going to bite, I'm sure you are just dangling (a lot of!) bait! No, not bait. Not sure what you could disagree with? Mitov was one heck of a character and great shot stopper, but he was prone to a lot of mistakes.
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Post by westchestertonbear on Mar 31, 2024 9:59:43 GMT
If Stevens has really done a hamstring then Mannion will play the remaining games anyway.
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Post by rozza1 on Mar 31, 2024 12:00:35 GMT
Thing is Oxford fans did say Stevens was alright at the start of his time there, young player of the year award and was the main keeper when they reached the playoffs. It was only after he got Glandular fever and seemed to lose all confidence that his form disappeared.
I don't think he started off badly here, but he doesn't seem to handle pressure and whenever the team's morale has dipped he seems to be particularly affected. Which is costly for teams in a relegation battle.
I don't think Mannion is particularly special, but like others have said he hasn't really done much wrong when he's played and unlike his colleague his confidence doesn't seem to be in ruins, so it's a no brainer to start him over Stevens.
As for comparisons with Mitov, Dimi wasn't perfect but I'd have him over both the current lot because occasionally he'd pull off a stunning performance. Yet to see that from Mannion.
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Post by Andrewlang on Mar 31, 2024 12:21:17 GMT
Made a mistake against Dundee yesterday by the sounds of it. I think he's clear favourite for their pots though.
Andrew
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Post by malotru on Mar 31, 2024 12:28:37 GMT
If Stevens is out for the remainder of the season I’ve no problem with Mannion being in goal as he’s a solid number 2 at this level and hasn’t let us down when intermittently called upon. But I think that Stevens should remain our number 1 keeper for next season and other areas of the squad need to be improved before the keeper situation.
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Post by imp566 on Mar 31, 2024 13:32:58 GMT
So much about that I disagree with, but I'm not going to bite, I'm sure you are just dangling (a lot of!) bait! No, not bait. Not sure what you could disagree with? Mitov was one heck of a character and great shot stopper, but he was prone to a lot of mistakes. I disagree with you about Mitov, and I disagree with you about Stevens. Both were the considered first choice for the manager and his goalkeeping coach, who see far more of them in training than any of us do. With Mannion only getting his chance because Stevens is injured, its fair to say that he is another of those players who fall into the bracket of enhancing his reputation when he is out of the starting line up. I have no doubt he is a decent keeper who will serve us well for the remainder of the season (or until Stevens is fit), but he wouldn't be my number 1. Here's his chance to prove to me (and much more importantly the manager) that he deserves to keep his place should Stevens be fit before the season ends. Also, to say that Mannion was 'one of the best players we've had to never nail down a place in the starting 11' is a wild statement considering the hundreds (and thousands!) of players who have worn our shirt. I can think of many that might better fit that accolade - Liam Hughes and Rory Macauley would certainly feature in that list way ahead of Mannion for me.
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Post by martinjohn on Mar 31, 2024 15:38:58 GMT
No, not bait. Not sure what you could disagree with? Mitov was one heck of a character and great shot stopper, but he was prone to a lot of mistakes. I disagree with you about Mitov, and I disagree with you about Stevens. Both were the considered first choice for the manager and his goalkeeping coach, who see far more of them in training than any of us do. With Mannion only getting his chance because Stevens is injured, its fair to say that he is another of those players who fall into the bracket of enhancing his reputation when he is out of the starting line up. I have no doubt he is a decent keeper who will serve us well for the remainder of the season (or until Stevens is fit), but he wouldn't be my number 1. Here's his chance to prove to me (and much more importantly the manager) that he deserves to keep his place should Stevens be fit before the season ends. Also, to say that Mannion was 'one of the best players we've had to never nail down a place in the starting 11' is a wild statement considering the hundreds (and thousands!) of players who have worn our shirt. I can think of many that might better fit that accolade - Liam Hughes and Rory Macauley would certainly feature in that list way ahead of Mannion for me. Both MaCauley and Hughes are first team regulars in their time, weren't they?
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Post by imp566 on Mar 31, 2024 15:43:55 GMT
I disagree with you about Mitov, and I disagree with you about Stevens. Both were the considered first choice for the manager and his goalkeeping coach, who see far more of them in training than any of us do. With Mannion only getting his chance because Stevens is injured, its fair to say that he is another of those players who fall into the bracket of enhancing his reputation when he is out of the starting line up. I have no doubt he is a decent keeper who will serve us well for the remainder of the season (or until Stevens is fit), but he wouldn't be my number 1. Here's his chance to prove to me (and much more importantly the manager) that he deserves to keep his place should Stevens be fit before the season ends. Also, to say that Mannion was 'one of the best players we've had to never nail down a place in the starting 11' is a wild statement considering the hundreds (and thousands!) of players who have worn our shirt. I can think of many that might better fit that accolade - Liam Hughes and Rory Macauley would certainly feature in that list way ahead of Mannion for me. Both MaCauley and Hughes are first team regulars in their time, weren't they? No, squad players mostly; Hughes especially never nailed down a place, he was used in just about every position on the field.
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