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Post by amberman2011 on Jul 12, 2011 12:12:15 GMT
well said!
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Post by amberman2011 on Jul 12, 2011 12:17:35 GMT
now IF i was racist the edl members/leaders would kick me out because they DONT condone racisism! BNP/NF are for racists NOT edl, edl are for PATRIOTS not RACISTS and if i ever met any racists in the edl i wouldnt be happy! infact id be pissed off because thats not the way the edl go about things. what makes me laugh is toooo many people take what the CEN says, and the CEN chats s.h.i.t.e to suit the minority of the general public! 90% of what the CEN publishes about the edl is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t.e!
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Post by soulhalshall on Jul 12, 2011 12:19:44 GMT
They might have had a message in the past but it has long been lost amongst racism. The only message which got through at their march was 'look what a bunch of knuckle draggers we are'. The country has listened to the EDL, we can hardly miss them taking over town centres, and what we have overwhelmingly heard are the groans of morons. If you've got a valid, reasonable point to make, marching with the EDL does you no favours at all.
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Post by bamberamber on Jul 12, 2011 12:22:33 GMT
I agree Ted, Initially the idea of the EDL marching against extremism was a very noble and vaild cause. Sadly the 'organisation' has more or less descended into nothing more than a hate campaign carried out by a large proportion of missed abortion opportunities.
I'm not tarring all EDL members with the same brush, I can't because I am of the belief that regardless of how few of them are left there are certainly people still holding the initial ideals of their founders. Sadly once that voice becomes lost amongst a sea of mouth breathing slum rats it's almost certainly time to knock the whole thing on the head and start again. They'll never be able to remove the unpleasant element from the EDL so there's no point in even trying to.
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Post by soulhalshall on Jul 12, 2011 12:22:44 GMT
And if the EDL do not tolerate racists then all those chanting racist slogans as they funnelled through Cambridge were immediately sent home and reprimanded by the top brass were they?
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Post by oliworth on Jul 12, 2011 12:27:20 GMT
IM ENGLISH AND I, LIKE MANY OTHERS ARE NOT GOING TO STAND BACK AND WATCH OUR COUNTRY BE DESTROYED! I, LIKE MANY OTHERS HAVE THE BALLS TO STAND UP AND MAKE OURSELVES HEARD AND US EDL WILL NOT STOP UNTIL WERE HEARD BY OUR S.H.I.T.E GOVERNMENT! What, exactly, are you 'standing up' for?
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Post by amberman2011 on Jul 12, 2011 12:40:07 GMT
OUR QUEEN/OUR COUNTRY/OUR SOLDIERS, DEAD/ALIVE!!! WERE STANDING UP FOR THE FAMILIES WHO GO TO WATCH THERE DEAD FAMILY MEMBERS BOUGHT HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN/IRAQ WHILE MUSLIMS STAND BURNING POPPIES AND CHANTING RACIAL ABUSE! NOW CAN YOU TELL ME THATS RIGHT?! CAN YOU TELL ME HOW WE SHOULD STAND AND WATCH THIS HAPPEN?! WE CANT, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR SAY IN THE MATTER BECAUSE AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED ITS A FLIPPIN DISGRACE BUT THE PROBLEM IS OUR GOVERNMENT WHO DOESNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO WE FEEL WE HAVE TO
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Post by Russ Greaves on Jul 12, 2011 13:05:36 GMT
Without wanting to justify the actions of any extremists, do you know why this country is so reviled by some? Do you have any idea what misery and suffering we have visited upon others in the pursuit of our own interests?
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Post by El Goodo on Jul 12, 2011 13:12:35 GMT
IM NOT RACIST, IM PATRIOT AND WHATEVER I DO AWAY FROM THE ABBEY ON SATURDAYS IS MY BUSINESS!! I WOULD EXCEPT BEING BANNED IF I HAD DONE SOMETHING WRONG WHILE AT THE ABBEY OR ON AN AWAY GAMES BUT THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN IM AT THE ABBEY OR ON AWAY GAMES UNITED IS ALL THAT MATTERS! Everything else aside, this is fair enough.
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Post by amberman2011 on Jul 12, 2011 13:13:07 GMT
alot of you on here sound af if your in support of the UAF which totally baffles me! the problem with this country is the government and they way they failed to deal with things such as immagration and extremism. the edl would never have formed and 7/7 would never had happened if it wasnt for blair taking us to war against the taliban, its called karma! but we have to except these things have happened and try to find a way of solving these issues. id say the government is the blame for alot that goes on in this country! and if somethings not done about it, its going to lead to civil war in the future unfortunately but the thing is were becoming a minority in our own country! english/england til i die!!!!
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Post by amberman2011 on Jul 12, 2011 13:15:48 GMT
ENOUGH SAID IM NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN MYSELF NO LONGER! CAMBRIDGE/ENGLAND TIL I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Russ Greaves on Jul 12, 2011 13:24:40 GMT
Probably for the best.
Just one final thing, on the 'minority in our own country' - quite aside from the mendacious use of the phrase 'our country,' you do realise the 2009 census showed that 82.8% of England was 'white British'?
I do hope the 'minority in our own country' line isn't an official EDL line, because if it is they've been lying to you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 15:07:35 GMT
the thing i cant get most of you are opposed of a bloody supermarket on mill road as its a chain ( o isnt cycle king perfect pizza sub way costa coffee a chain) but want a bloody super mosque were is the sense in that, i might buy the plot and build another kingsway flats but then i wont get permission as i cant claim its racist. i'm not in the edl or anyway form of group but would ne of you want to live in luton (forget the football aspect but the town on the whole)
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Post by Rico on Jul 12, 2011 15:50:21 GMT
I think this thread and the different tangents it's gone down is a good example of how confused the EDL's message is.
They say they're a peaceful protest group but the leader decided to name himself after the leader of the Luton firm. A bloke infamous for being violent for violence's sake.
They (originally) said they're opposed to radicals and extremists but not all muslims and then they protest about decent moderate muslims building mosques instead of targeting the poppy burning nutters.
The stuff about immigration and other general politics is nothing to do with what the EDL was originally about as far as I can tell, hence them originally trying to play up the fact that they had black and asian members and saying they didn't agree with the BNP's views on immigrants. Unfortunately it now seems to have morphed into a slightly more incoherent, rowdy younger version of the BNP.
I don't have any love for the UAF, to be honest I don't know much about them but I don't see what's wrong with being anti-fascist per se. After all arguably our greatest moment as a country was when along with our allies (of all faiths and none) defeated the fascists in the second world war.
If there's any reason to be proud of the country you happened to be born in then it's that. If you really are patriotic then stop disrespecting the memories of all those who died fighting fascists by becoming one. I'm against extremist muslims as much as anyone but am intelligent enough to realise that becoming a fascist isn't the best way to oppose them.
upmyownass - how do you know 'most' of us are opposed to a supermarket on mill road!? No ones even mentioned that have they? personally I couldn't give a rubbish about that or the new mosque! If there's demand for it then let them build it. From what I've heard of the plans they'll probably both improve the area, visually anyway.
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Jul 12, 2011 18:23:24 GMT
Slight observation.
People defending EDL, poor grammar and random use of capitals.
People against EDL, mostly decent grammar and no use of long passages in capitals.
Strange correlation don't you think?
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