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Post by kentishu on Nov 9, 2019 10:12:18 GMT
The only thing I would say is that in all my lifetime I have never been confronted with such a dreadful choice amongst parties and leaders... the worst Labour leader in fifty years plus, a serial liar and cheat in both personal and public life (that's De Pfeffel Johnson if you were confused), or an inexperienced and slightly shrill Scot. On balance the Scot probably gets my vote simply for not being a total pillock, but can you imagine what any of Blair, Thatcher or Ashdown would have done if they were still leading their party? It would have been a landslide... Blimey, even the saintly Nick seems to be voting based on personalities alone. Did you not think of looking at policies too? By the way, interesting that you can come up with some very specific failings for both Johnson and Swinson, but for Corbyn all you can manage is 'worst'. Kentish
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Nov 9, 2019 10:19:16 GMT
Well, at the time of this post, this thread has attracted just 42 votes after 2 1/2 days. Is it that people are not very interested in it or that there are a lot of people that haven't made up their minds yet ? Well I haven't made my mind up yet. Still can't decide on whether to vote Brexit or Conservative. Will add my vote to the poll when I've seen how right the manifestos are. Though the word is that one of those two can't be arsed to write one because they want the people to decide instead of the people..
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Post by pj on Nov 10, 2019 10:56:00 GMT
“None of the above”
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Post by soulhalshall on Nov 10, 2019 18:48:29 GMT
Labour. I like Corbyn but I agree with a previous poster, we're voting for the best fit in policy terms. I don't agree with all of Labour's policies but I agree with most and what I think they want to achieve. I think they are unfairly pilloried and I think it's a shame the Lads, so clearly devoid of a proper raison d'etre, could make gains.
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Nov 10, 2019 18:49:31 GMT
Recent pic of Bojo with Evgeny Lebedev son of former Russian spy and oligarch Alexander Lebedev Johnson's Kremlin connection. Why has the Prime Minister deliberately delayed publication of the Parliamentary Intelligence Security Committees report when it has been ready since October for publication. They are conveniently saying there are security concerns that won’t be sorted until after the election but the Chairman of the Committee on advice from Mi5. Mi6 and GCHQ says it is ready and has urged the Government to publish before the election stating the electorate has a right to know before they go to the polls. Lord Evans former head of Mi5 has said the same. Apparently all 9 Russians donors to the Conservative Party have according to the report connections with the Russian Federal Security Bureau. Despite promises from the Conservative Party to cut ties with Russian donors following the Salisbury poisoning, apparently the report draws attention to Lubov Chernukhin (wife of Putin ally Vladimir Chernukhin) who has donated more than £450k to the Conservative Party in the last year alone including £160k to play tennis with Boris Johnson. Apparently the report contends that in the last 7 years the Conservative Party have accepted more than £1.2 m from Alexander Termenko who works for the Russian defence ministry. There are also apparently concerns in the report about big donations from former Russian spy Alendander Lebedev who owns the Evening Standard and lavish parties his son Evgeny has hosted which Boris Johnson and other senior Tory government members have repeatedly attended. Apparently nothing is off the menu at these parties and the Inquiry reports blackmail concerns over activities there. The report is also said to draw attention to serious concerns about the amount of time Dominic Cummings spent in Moscow in the 1990s and that for good reason British Security Services have placed restrictions on Cummings access to intelligence material despite his senior position as a chief adviser to Johnson. If there was even a sniff of Kremlin support for Corbyn and the Labour Party the media Establishment would crucify them and yet Johnson and his lot are hoping to get away with massive donations from Putin and his cronies without more than a few lines in the news. Johnson and the Conservative Party should not be allowed to sponsor the vital interests of Russia which are clearly to divide and weaken the unity of European states and part of that is Brexit to undermine the EU. This report must be published before the election so the electorate can decide for themselves whether the Conservative Party have at the very least flirted with treason and whether they are fit to govern and protect our people from the activities of a foreign state. Anyone who intends to vote Tory after all this needs to think again.
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Post by neilmc4 on Nov 10, 2019 20:24:27 GMT
The 2019 General Election in a nutshell.
WARNING!!! - Very sweary. I mean SERIOUSLY sweary. But frighteningly accurate.
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Post by habbinboy on Nov 11, 2019 17:47:30 GMT
So Farage has bottled it, the lightweight.
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Post by pedrosacapuntas on Nov 11, 2019 20:08:28 GMT
He's been quite conservative here (heh) as he's probably looked at the quality of candidates 300 through 600 and thought there's no point pissing the dodgy money up the wall.
If that absolute car crash Belinda de Lucy is one of the most marketable non-Nigels then the stragglers must be really be an unelectable rabble.
Anyway, it's clearly bad news for any who aren't a fan of a big Borisy bonus majority.
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Post by pappasmurf on Nov 12, 2019 13:18:50 GMT
Perhaps Nigel Farage has just rained on the Lib Dem party.
Good.
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Post by martin018 on Nov 12, 2019 16:09:07 GMT
Well done Nigel 🙂
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Post by moose on Nov 12, 2019 16:26:11 GMT
Farage said that the Boris deal was "not Brexit" and was "the second-worst deal in history". I thought he was referring to the Devon White deal, but apparently he means Theresa May's.
If that deal is "not Brexit" then he cannot also step aside in order to "ensure" Brexit.
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Post by habbinboy on Nov 12, 2019 17:50:50 GMT
We got 100k for Devon White. If Farage stands done in the marginals, I hope the BBC and ITV will ignore his pointless party.
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Post by jordanworland1 on Nov 12, 2019 20:39:30 GMT
You should be scared of Priti Patel with power I’m voting Tory partly because of Brexit. It’s also not the Tory shift to the right as the Labour lurch to the far left. Diane Abbott and McDonnell in power scares me far more than Johnson and Priti Patel.
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Post by martin018 on Nov 12, 2019 23:40:01 GMT
i know of many Labour voters who cannot vote for Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell and Thornberry.
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Post by pedrosacapuntas on Nov 13, 2019 7:08:55 GMT
But could probably get on board with the majority of policies that would pass if elected.
That's the funny thing about the rub of it, Labour are utterly outmanouevered by the media and Tories.
Priti Patel really is a nasty sponge too.
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