Mark of Carnage
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Post by Mark of Carnage on Nov 6, 2019 17:46:08 GMT
The Prime Minister met the Queen today marking the start of the General Election.
I wonder, is the substantive issue brexit or is it the everday issues of government of the UK that concern us all?
Anyway this election deserves its own thread and for a bit of fun will be interesting to see how we on this board will vote given that this election has arguably too many variables to have confidence in the opinion polls.
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Post by pedrosacapuntas on Nov 6, 2019 18:17:11 GMT
As yet undecided.
Kudos for including Change, is there anyone still left in the building there?
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Post by mike_CUFC on Nov 7, 2019 9:07:29 GMT
Is it just me or is seeing Labour in yellow and the Lib Dems as red really screwing with my head!
Not sure I could vote for any of the 3 main parties right now. Boris is a buffoon and they have lurched to the right, Corbyn has taken Labour so far left and would take us back to the dark ages and the Lib Dems want to ignore the referendum result altoghether. I voted remain but even I acknowledge that is just going to annoy a lot of people. A centrist party could walk this election if they campaigned right.
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neilmc4
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Post by neilmc4 on Nov 7, 2019 9:40:18 GMT
A "None Of The Above" Party would win with a landslide!!!!!!
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lesj
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Post by lesj on Nov 7, 2019 9:52:04 GMT
The Raving Looney party ?
At least they are are honest about what they are.
As for Boris Johnson ...... a walking disaster
I really never thought that the Tories could sink so low
Not that I am a Tory.
For fifty years I have always voted until this summer, but the way things are at the moment I really am not happy with any of them .
I could well end up not voting again.
The country is in a right mess and who ever gets into power has a right job on their hands.
I feel sorry for the youngsters of today . I can't see that they have a lot to look forward to
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cambsno
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Post by cambsno on Nov 7, 2019 13:15:37 GMT
Is it just me or is seeing Labour in yellow and the Lib Dems as red really screwing with my head! Not sure I could vote for any of the 3 main parties right now. Boris is a buffoon and they have lurched to the right, Corbyn has taken Labour so far left and would take us back to the dark ages and the Lib Dems want to ignore the referendum result altoghether. I voted remain but even I acknowledge that is just going to annoy a lot of people. A centrist party could walk this election if they campaigned right. If the referendum was re-run Remain would win! I dont think the LD are looking to ignore it, but they see that many lies were said during the campaign and we are now better informed as to what the various deals or no deals entail. There is nothing to stop Boris at the end of the transition, leaving on no deal as the negotiations with us & EU collapse! You could argue that Boris wants to ignore the result as it was a close run race and no mandate for no deal or his deal!
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cambsno
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Post by cambsno on Nov 7, 2019 13:20:10 GMT
I think this election more than any other will need people to vote tactically. South Cambs is a very safe Tory seat, even if you combine 2017 Lab/LD result they still trail... but in closer ones people need to think about splitting the vote. If Lab are stronger than LD and you want to get rid of Boris then vote Lab, even if a lifelong LD and vice-versa.
I cant see the Tories not winning Sth Cambs although sure they will drop votes as Heidi is leaving and its a 70% remain area, but for Lab/LD to win they need one party to fall apart!
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cambcam
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Post by cambcam on Nov 7, 2019 14:15:12 GMT
“I feel sorry for the youngsters of today . I can't see that they have a lot to look forward to”.
Disagree with that I’m afraid, there’s lots to look forward to. Anyone with any gumption still has the opportunity to go far. But the useless, entitled group-huggers deserve no sympathy at all. At least the growing mass of hopeless lefties is a benefit to any youngster with determination, backbone and resilience. Who would you want to employ - someone you can rely on to get the ‘job done’ or someone that will fall apart at the first sign of pressure and go running off for therapy?
It’s the same mob of fantasists that are into Corbyn and the Greens. In some ways I’m hoping for a Labour victory, I think the country needs it to settle everyone down. It’s just an inevitable cycle that happens every decade or two - Labour get in, fu*k things up, the youngsters would wind their necks in and learn the difference between fantasy and reality, Labour would be out for another 15 years until the next generation of even more useless entitled youngsters comes along and off we go again.
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Post by spyros on Nov 7, 2019 15:46:58 GMT
“I feel sorry for the youngsters of today . I can't see that they have a lot to look forward to”. Disagree with that I’m afraid, there’s lots to look forward to. Anyone with any gumption still has the opportunity to go far. But the useless, entitled group-huggers deserve no sympathy at all... Can anyone else detect a long-held resentment following a knock-back at the school disco sometime in the late-80s from Amanda who used to wear an REM t-shirt?
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Post by Tom Shaw's Fist of Rage on Nov 7, 2019 16:35:34 GMT
It's a great character act but it's too perfect.
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cambcam
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Post by cambcam on Nov 7, 2019 19:10:11 GMT
“I feel sorry for the youngsters of today . I can't see that they have a lot to look forward to”. Disagree with that I’m afraid, there’s lots to look forward to. Anyone with any gumption still has the opportunity to go far. But the useless, entitled group-huggers deserve no sympathy at all... Can anyone else detect a long-held resentment following a knock-back at the school disco sometime in the late-80s from Amanda who used to wear an REM t-shirt? Nah, at my sixth form the lefties were all Billy Bragg and John Cooper Clarke. Bob Geldof was still in a band and didn’t know he was going to feed the world. The righties were New Romantics, all hair, clothes and sucked-in cheeks. Did get a knock-back from some girl that went on to be a dancer on Top of the Pops once which took a while to come to terms with, but struggling to recall the t-shirt she was wearing to be fair. Think most of the righties went on to do ok while the lefties spent their time on protest marches and blaming Maggie. Funny that, different era, but not a lot changes really.
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lesj
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Post by lesj on Nov 7, 2019 19:34:40 GMT
There's one thing we can be sure of.
We'll be getting plenty of paper through the letterbox for recycling
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Post by kettlewitch on Nov 7, 2019 23:12:52 GMT
A "None Of The Above" Party would win with a landslide!!!!!! OK, I am several pints down and feeling uncharacteristically confident, so I'm going to don my tin hat and put this out there. I would love to see 'None of the above' on the voting slip... eventually, and in combination with a compulsion to cast a vote in parliamentary elections. It would require significant time and effort to bring about the cultural change whereby (almost) everybody embraced the opportunity to engage, but I think that having the opportunity to explicitly reject all the available options would help. As things stand with the first past the post format there will always be a winner regardless of the turnout. Giving people the chance to register their disapproval of all candidates would mean that that 'winner' could be viewed in light of their popularity within their electorate as a whole, and their mandate recognised and tempered accordingly. What I would most hope to see from compulsory voting, though, would be affirmative votes cast by those who might otherwise have not bothered on the assumption that theirs "would not mean anything". If people who feel that way simply do not vote then they are reducing the chances of others of the same persuasion voting as they too do not realise the strength of support for their perceived lost cause. It may not give the result you would like this time, but it could encourage others to vote with their convictions next time. While I have absolutely no time for anyone who declares that they "do not vote", as if it is some sort of badge of honour, at this time I can understand why some people choose not to because they simply do not want to endorse anyone on their constituency ballot paper. The chance to express that opinion should be welcomed as a way to send a message to all the main parties.
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Post by kentishu on Nov 7, 2019 23:28:00 GMT
“I feel sorry for the youngsters of today . I can't see that they have a lot to look forward to”. Disagree with that I’m afraid, there’s lots to look forward to. Anyone with any gumption still has the opportunity to go far. But the useless, entitled group-huggers deserve no sympathy at all. At least the growing mass of hopeless lefties is a benefit to any youngster with determination, backbone and resilience. Who would you want to employ - someone you can rely on to get the ‘job done’ or someone that will fall apart at the first sign of pressure and go running off for therapy? It’s the same mob of fantasists that are into Corbyn and the Greens. In some ways I’m hoping for a Labour victory, I think the country needs it to settle everyone down. It’s just an inevitable cycle that happens every decade or two - Labour get in, fu*k things up, the youngsters would wind their necks in and learn the difference between fantasy and reality, Labour would be out for another 15 years until the next generation of even more useless entitled youngsters comes along and off we go again. You don't really get socialism do you? It's about achieving your own potential and helping others achieve theirs. I feel sorry that you are so cynical. I have been a socialist all my life, I don't know how can you survive without some belief and optimism? Do you actually know any young people? As a rule, they're much more polite and interesting than the miserable old git Brexit brigade. Kentish
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martin018
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Post by martin018 on Nov 8, 2019 7:32:58 GMT
As someone who has voted Labour all my life and can no longer do so. I cannot stand the culture of Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Momentum. I shall vote Tory for the first time ever.
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