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Post by sheffyoos on Sept 18, 2020 19:50:07 GMT
It really wasn't a 'bleat', was it? You've been on here less than a month, are you going to f uck off even quicker? Bobby Shinton. He F ucked off pretty quickly. What a player though.
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Post by hersey on Sept 18, 2020 21:02:02 GMT
I’ve come to the conclusion I won’t go to any games until January/ February, which is why I didn’t get a season ticket. That’s really supportive of the club, nice one. Oh f uck off. We've seen time and rime again that we're all in it together until it doesn't suit the club's purpose.
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Post by Actually Valid Username on Sept 19, 2020 5:39:04 GMT
I do think the likelihood of a second lockdown is pretty high, what also worries me (From a United POV) is that in the event of opening up again, football won't be a priority (maybe we should start a grouse hunting team?)
FWIW I did have the privilege of buying a season ticket during the first lockdown and think it's unlikely I'll see a game this side of Christmas. It's a shame but we knew the risk when we took it -does leave a rather large football shaped hole in your life though doesn't it?
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Post by Rico on Sept 19, 2020 7:26:09 GMT
Problem is I can’t really see things getting better after Christmas. Not sure why people seem to think January / Feb will be better than now?
I know it’s been mentioned by people in leading roles but I haven’t really heard a good explanation for why - because that’s bang in the middle of traditional flu season and I’d expect a little spike after all the get togethers over the festive period, legal or otherwise.
Might be a case of getting on with things soon or waiting till next spring by which time the season will nearly be over.
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Post by utopia on Sept 19, 2020 8:01:08 GMT
Problem is I can’t really see things getting better after Christmas. Not sure why people seem to think January / Feb will be better than now? I know it’s been mentioned by people in leading roles but I haven’t really heard a good explanation for why - because that’s bang in the middle of traditional flu season and I’d expect a little spike after all the get togethers over the festive period, legal or otherwise. Might be a case of getting on with things soon or waiting till next spring by which time the season will nearly be over. Yes, January or February seems completely nonsensical. The only way that works is if we're close to herd immunity now meaning that it will be fading away by then. I suppose that is faesible. The places getting locked down now are not those that were worst hit during the spring. The big problem is the lack of data for the number of infections early on. A lot of the numbers are guesswork and there may have been a lot more infections in March and April than we think. China gives the impression of being back to normal so perhaps they have herd immunity. Can't trust the CCP though.
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Post by ftg1982 on Sept 19, 2020 9:09:42 GMT
Problem is I can’t really see things getting better after Christmas. Not sure why people seem to think January / Feb will be better than now? I know it’s been mentioned by people in leading roles but I haven’t really heard a good explanation for why - because that’s bang in the middle of traditional flu season and I’d expect a little spike after all the get togethers over the festive period, legal or otherwise. Might be a case of getting on with things soon or waiting till next spring by which time the season will nearly be over. Yes, January or February seems completely nonsensical. The only way that works is if we're close to herd immunity now meaning that it will be fading away by then. I suppose that is faesible. The places getting locked down now are not those that were worst hit during the spring. The big problem is the lack of data for the number of infections early on. A lot of the numbers are guesswork and there may have been a lot more infections in March and April than we think. China gives the impression of being back to normal so perhaps they have herd immunity. Can't trust the CCP though. Sweden is the only country bucking the trend in terms of rising COVID cases and their doctors and public health officials are arguing that this is result of herd immunity which is often induced by T-cells rather than antibodies. T-cell immunity is being backed up by increasing number of scientific investigations. Spain is a good 6 weeks ahead of UK in terms of its spike but cases are flattening out there: www.cebm.net/covid-19/does-the-resurgence-of-covid-19-in-spain-exhibit-exponential-growth/ and all-cause mortality is still around average for this time of year. In the UK all-cause mortality is currently below average. No 'second wave' coming guys. Some localised spikes in places where the virus did not reach in March/April but nothing that the NHS will not be able to handle. No doubt the government will spin this when these spikes die out claim it was because of the measures they put in place. Wake up people. Do a bit of research on the statistics (including the false positive rate) and science and make your own conclusion if you can bothered. The measures are unnecessary and killing smaller professional football clubs.
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Post by dhpaul on Sept 19, 2020 11:14:12 GMT
I don't think there will be any 2020/21 season matches with normal number of spectators at all. When this governments response is driven by what Prof Whitty thinks, and did anyone vote for him to be running the country by the way, then the response will be driven by fear and pessimism. Anything that involves interacting in a normal social way is just not going to be tolerated for a long long time. And for those that think we just need to wait for a vaccine, well dream on. If we get a vaccine it is likely to be as effective as the flu vaccine, ie at best 50%, and of course Prof Whitty will want to see it work for a good while, so don't expect to get the vaccine one day and restrictions to be lifted the next. Its not going to happen. Personally I think social distancing, masks etc will last into 2022 at least. Whether we have any economy left by then is debateable, we might just be like Zimbabwe. How CUFC will continue I don't know. As a 71 year old I can afford to donate to the club at some point if it comes to the need to help save it, not everyone can I accept. I want to be able to watch a match in a normal way, I just hope I live long enough to do this. And for the record, I and my wife both had the virus in July.
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Post by ilovechadders on Sept 19, 2020 12:19:43 GMT
I don't think there will be any 2020/21 season matches with normal number of spectators at all. When this governments response is driven by what Prof Whitty thinks, and did anyone vote for him to be running the country by the way, then the response will be driven by fear and pessimism. Anything that involves interacting in a normal social way is just not going to be tolerated for a long long time. And for those that think we just need to wait for a vaccine, well dream on. If we get a vaccine it is likely to be as effective as the flu vaccine, ie at best 50%, and of course Prof Whitty will want to see it work for a good while, so don't expect to get the vaccine one day and restrictions to be lifted the next. Its not going to happen. Personally I think social distancing, masks etc will last into 2022 at least. Whether we have any economy left by then is debateable, we might just be like Zimbabwe. How CUFC will continue I don't know. As a 71 year old I can afford to donate to the club at some point if it comes to the need to help save it, not everyone can I accept. I want to be able to watch a match in a normal way, I just hope I live long enough to do this. And for the record, I and my wife both had the virus in July. Hopefully you aren’t correct, but worryingly there is a good chance that you are. Glad that you and your wife, I assume, have recovered ok from the virus. Did you find out how/where you got infected?
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Wingco's Boy
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Post by Wingco's Boy on Sept 19, 2020 12:36:51 GMT
Problem is I can’t really see things getting better after Christmas. Not sure why people seem to think January / Feb will be better than now? I know it’s been mentioned by people in leading roles but I haven’t really heard a good explanation for why - because that’s bang in the middle of traditional flu season and I’d expect a little spike after all the get togethers over the festive period, legal or otherwise. Might be a case of getting on with things soon or waiting till next spring by which time the season will nearly be over. Yes, January or February seems completely nonsensical. The only way that works is if we're close to herd immunity now meaning that it will be fading away by then. I suppose that is faesible. The places getting locked down now are not those that were worst hit during the spring. The big problem is the lack of data for the number of infections early on. A lot of the numbers are guesswork and there may have been a lot more infections in March and April than we think. China gives the impression of being back to normal so perhaps they have herd immunity. Can't trust the CCP though. Herd immunity was within our grasp until Professor Doom told Boris to shut everything down again. We are in a mad doom loop. More testing was needed, we got it, asymptomatic positive tests by the bucketload should have been a cause for celebration. Instead the appalling, unelected Whitty and his puppet decide we should be terrified that people are catching it and not feeling ill. Utter, utter madness.
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Post by atrueu on Sept 19, 2020 13:07:34 GMT
You selfish pricks..
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Post by ftg1982 on Sept 19, 2020 13:07:34 GMT
Yes, January or February seems completely nonsensical. The only way that works is if we're close to herd immunity now meaning that it will be fading away by then. I suppose that is faesible. The places getting locked down now are not those that were worst hit during the spring. The big problem is the lack of data for the number of infections early on. A lot of the numbers are guesswork and there may have been a lot more infections in March and April than we think. China gives the impression of being back to normal so perhaps they have herd immunity. Can't trust the CCP though. Herd immunity was within our grasp until Professor Doom told Boris to shut everything down again. We are in a mad doom loop. More testing was needed, we got it, asymptomatic positive tests by the bucketload should have been a cause for celebration. Instead the appalling, unelected Whitty and his puppet decide we should be terrified that people are catching it and not feeling ill. Utter, utter madness. And if anyone believes we can trust SAGE's advice the attachment is from the Cambridge Evening News on 14.03.2020 in which Vallance advocates herd immunity and his position is clearly against lockdown: Now take a look at this recent BBC article and go figure: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54150538
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Post by kentishu on Sept 19, 2020 16:26:22 GMT
I don't think there will be any 2020/21 season matches with normal number of spectators at all. When this governments response is driven by what Prof Whitty thinks, and did anyone vote for him to be running the country by the way, then the response will be driven by fear and pessimism. Anything that involves interacting in a normal social way is just not going to be tolerated for a long long time. And for those that think we just need to wait for a vaccine, well dream on. If we get a vaccine it is likely to be as effective as the flu vaccine, ie at best 50%, and of course Prof Whitty will want to see it work for a good while, so don't expect to get the vaccine one day and restrictions to be lifted the next. Its not going to happen. Personally I think social distancing, masks etc will last into 2022 at least. Whether we have any economy left by then is debateable, we might just be like Zimbabwe. How CUFC will continue I don't know. As a 71 year old I can afford to donate to the club at some point if it comes to the need to help save it, not everyone can I accept. I want to be able to watch a match in a normal way, I just hope I live long enough to do this. And for the record, I and my wife both had the virus in July. Hopefully you aren’t correct, but worryingly there is a good chance that you are. Glad that you and your wife, I assume, have recovered ok from the virus. Did you find out how/where you got infected? With that attitude, it's hardly surprising that he caught it. Sounds like he is very lucky to be alive.
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Post by anotherdave on Sept 19, 2020 16:34:50 GMT
Should finish the season now and do it on points per game average.
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Post by saltyvinegar on Sept 19, 2020 16:47:33 GMT
Please elaborate so a discussion can be had. Last time I checked, freedom of speech was just about available in this country although not sure for how long given recent events
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Post by dhpaul on Sept 19, 2020 21:32:56 GMT
Hopefully you aren’t correct, but worryingly there is a good chance that you are. Glad that you and your wife, I assume, have recovered ok from the virus. Did you find out how/where you got infected? With that attitude, it's hardly surprising that he caught it. Sounds like he is very lucky to be alive. What an astonishing comment! I fail to see how my "attitude" as you call it, has any bearing on my ability to catch the virus. I guess you don't agree with my comments and probably think the sun shines out of Prof Whitty's backside. Many people don't. For your information I am a law abiding person and have observed all the distancing rules since day 1. I can't be sure where I picked up the virus, but either on a trip to collect a takeaway curry, or on my weekly shop in Morrisons. Fortunately I had it mildly, the cough persisted for several weeks, the fever was continuous for several days, but the worst was the unbelievable night sweats. But to bring it back on topic, I am very concerned that Prof Whitty can have such an effect on every business in the country, to such an extent that clubs like ours are at great risk of not surviving if the government follows his suggestions much longer. A man who more or less said anything not Covid related is not important to the NHS for several months is a very dangerous man.
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